Fourier transform question (pretty simple, i think)

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The discussion revolves around the Fourier transform of a wave packet defined by the function cos(bx) within specific limits. Participants explore the normalization of the function and the calculation of Fourier coefficients, as well as the transition to k space representation.

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  • Participants discuss the normalization of the wave packet and the calculation of Fourier coefficients a0, an, and bn. Questions arise regarding the limits of integration and the process of obtaining the Fourier transform. There is also a shift in focus towards expressing the wave packet in k space, with inquiries about the implications of normalization in a quantum mechanical context.

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Several participants have provided insights into the Fourier transform process and the necessary calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of normalization on the parameter b, with some participants expressing confidence in their results while others suggest verification of their calculations.

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There are indications of uncertainty regarding the value of b and its implications for the wave function's properties. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the mathematical setup and assumptions involved in the problem.

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ok, i have a wave packet which is defined between (-pi/(2b)) and (pi/(2b)) as cos(bx), and it's zero everywhere else. here's what I've done so far:

i normalized and solved for b, getting pi/2. so now I'm thinking i should calculate the a0, an, and bn series, and add, right? and here is where I'm stuck. how do i go about doing this? what are the limits of integration? and do i just add the results together to get the final Fourier transform? any and all attempts at help is much appreciated. thanks a lot!
 
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huh? I understand you want to write your wave packet as a Fourier integral, like so,

[tex]F(x)=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}G(\omega)e^{i\omega x}d\omega[/tex]

??

All you need to do is calculate [itex]G(\omega)[/itex] by doing the Fourier transform of F:

[tex]G(\omega)=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}F(x)e^{-i\omega x}dx=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\frac{\pi}{2b}}^{+\frac{\pi}{2b}}cos(bx)e^{-i\omega x}dx[/tex]
 
i'm sorry, i guess i should've been more clear. i need to write it in k space.. as in, i need an expression for phi(k) (sorry, can't get LaTeX to display it)
 
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soo.. i don't need to normalize and solve for b?
 
Ok, from the top. This is how it goes... You have a wave packet F(x,t) propagating in the positive x direction at speed v. In the spirit of Fourier series, you're hoping to write your wave packet as a "sum" of progressive waves of carefully chosen amplitudes: [itex]\phi(k)e^{k(x-vt)}[/itex] ([itex]\phi(k)[/itex] represents the amplitude of the wave of wave number k. It is the analogue in Fourier integrals of the coefficients [itex]c_n[/itex] in Fourier series):

[tex]F(x,t)=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}\phi(k)e^{ik(x-vt)}dk[/tex]

But what is [itex]\phi(k)[/itex]? You know that at t=0, the wave has the form [itex]F(x,0)=\cos(bx)[/itex] for [itex]-\pi/2b<x<\pi/2b[/itex] and 0 elsewhere. In this case, your wave packet becomes

[tex]F(x,0)=F(x)=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}\phi(k)e^{ikx}dk[/tex]

This is a form that is suitable for a Fourier transform. According to Fourier's inversion theorem then,

[tex]\phi(k)=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}F(x)e^{-ikx}dx[/tex]

[tex]\phi(k)=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\frac{\pi}{2b}}^{+\frac{\pi}{2b}}cos(bx)e^{-ikx}dx[/tex]
 
In post #4, you're talking about normalization, this suggest that F(x,t) is intended as a wave function in the quantum mechanical sense? In that case, yes, b cannot have just about any value. For F to be a wave function satisfying the probabilistic interpretation of QM, [itex]FF^*[/itex] needs to have the properties of a probability density function. One of these is that the "sum" of the probabilities be 1. In this case,

[tex]1=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}FF^*dx[/tex]

[tex]1=\int_{-\frac{\pi}{2b}}^{+\frac{\pi}{2b}}cos^2(bx)dx[/tex]

What condition does that set on b?
 
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Think I got it :) I got b as [tex]\frac{1}{\pi}[/tex] and my final equation in k space as [tex]\phi(k) = \frac {\pi}{\frac{\pi^2}{4}+k^2}e^{2ik}[/tex] .Thanks a lot for the help!
 
I got b=pi/2, but I could be wrong. Still it's worth double checking your work I think.
 
er, you're right. That's what I got too. I was looking at something else. Thanks so much for the help, it's truly appreciated.
 

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