Free Electrons: Causes of Release Explained

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The discussion revolves around the concept of free electrons, specifically what causes electrons to become free from atoms and their behavior in solids. It touches on theoretical aspects, the nature of electron movement in materials, and the distinctions between solid-state physics and atomic physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that free electrons are electrons released from atomic shells, questioning what causes this release.
  • Others argue that free electrons are better understood in the context of energy bands in solids, where electrons do not belong to individual atoms.
  • A participant mentions that a truly free electron may be a mathematical approximation.
  • It is suggested that in metals like copper, free electrons can move between energy states rather than being confined to atomic orbitals.
  • One participant emphasizes that the concept of conduction electrons is distinct from isolated atomic behavior, highlighting the role of energy bands in determining electrical properties.
  • Electron emission can occur through various mechanisms, including overcoming potential barriers or quantum tunneling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of free electrons and their release from atoms, with some emphasizing the importance of energy bands in solids while others maintain a more traditional view of electron release. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise definitions and mechanisms involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about free electrons, particularly regarding the definitions of energy bands and the conditions under which electrons are considered free. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding about solid-state physics compared to atomic physics.

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So, as far as I know free electrons are just electrons that have been 'released' from the shell of an atom and can now move. If this is true, what is it that causes the electron to become free in the first place?

Thanks in advance to any answers ☺
 
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StrawberryElf said:
So, as far as I know free electrons are just electrons that have been 'released' from the shell of an atom and can now move. If this is true, what is it that causes the electron to become free in the first place?

Thanks in advance to any answers ☺
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_electron_model

:smile:
 
Also look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_band_structure

An atom has discrete energy levels. A large molecule has many more energy levels, since there are many degrees of freedom. When there are many energy levels close to each other, they form a band. Electrons can easily move between states in a band.
 
I guess a truly free electron is a mathematical approximation.
 
Khashishi said:
Also look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_band_structure

An atom has discrete energy levels. A large molecule has many more energy levels, since there are many degrees of freedom. When there are many energy levels close to each other, they form a band. Electrons can easily move between states in a band.

So, say you have a block of Copper, the free electrons are just jumping from shell to shell of the atoms that make up that copper??
 
The outer electrons orbit the entire molecule as a whole, I think.
 
StrawberryElf said:
So, say you have a block of Copper, the free electrons are just jumping from shell to shell of the atoms that make up that copper??

Assuming you're referring to free electrons as the valence electrons in a metallic object, then they occupy states in which they are shared with the entire block of copper. They no longer occupy an orbital around a single nucleus.
 
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StrawberryElf said:
So, as far as I know free electrons are just electrons that have been 'released' from the shell of an atom and can now move. If this is true, what is it that causes the electron to become free in the first place?

Thanks in advance to any answers ☺

So, already your starting premise is wrong.

In a solid, there are stuff that can't be found in isolated atoms, such as energy BANDS. At the simplest level, these are what caused a solid to be a conductor, semiconductor, insulator, etc. The conduction electrons do not belong to any particular atom. So in a photoelectric effect, the electrons being released from the solid are not "... electrons that have been 'released' from the shell of an atom...".

This is why Solid State Physics is different than atomic physics or molecular physics.

Electron emission can be as simple as having enough energy to overcome any attractive potential or barrier, or it can be as quantum-mechanical as tunneling through the barrier.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
So, already your starting premise is wrong.

In a solid, there are stuff that can't be found in isolated atoms, such as energy BANDS. At the simplest level, these are what caused a solid to be a conductor, semiconductor, insulator, etc. The conduction electrons do not belong to any particular atom. So in a photoelectric effect, the electrons being released from the solid are not "... electrons that have been 'released' from the shell of an atom...".

This is why Solid State Physics is different than atomic physics or molecular physics.

Electron emission can be as simple as having enough energy to overcome any attractive potential or barrier, or it can be as quantum-mechanical as tunneling through the barrier.

Zz.
Wow - it's crazy how much of what I'm taught is wrong. Thanks for clearing that up for me ☺
 

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