Freq. of small oscillations in two pendulums

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The discussion revolves around calculating the frequency of small oscillations for two pendulums with different mass distributions. For pendulum I, the frequency is derived from the formula sqrt(g/L), while for pendulum II, the center of mass must be considered due to its two bobs. The user initially calculated the frequency ratio as sqrt(4/3) but later realized that the correct approach involves the moment of inertia and the center of mass, leading to the expected answer of sqrt(6/5). Clarifications emphasize that the length L in the frequency formula refers to the distance from the pivot to the center of mass, not just the length of the pendulum. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately determining the frequency of oscillations in compound pendulums.
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Homework Statement



Consider two pendulums, I and II. I consists of a bob of mass 2m at the end of a rod of length L. II consists of one bob of mass m at the end of a rod of length L and another bob of mass m halfway up the road, at L/2. What is the ratio of the frequency of small oscillations of pendulum II to that of pendulum I?

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As far as I know, for small oscillations, the frequency is given by sqrt(g/L), where g is the acceleration of gravity, and L is the length of the pendulum. Therefore, the frequency of small oscillations is proportional to sqrt(1/L).

The Attempt at a Solution



if wII is the frequency for pendulum II and LII is the length of pendulum II, and wI is the frequency for pendulum I and LI is the length of pendulum I:

wII/wI = sqrt(1/LII)/sqrt(1/LI)

As I understand it, for an ideal pendulum, L refers to the position of the bob. The way I saw it, the "Bob" of pendulum II is located at the center of mass of the two Bobs. since one is at L and the other is at L/2, the center of mass is at 3L/4. Therefore:

wII/wI = sqrt(4/3)/sqrt(1/1) = sqrt(4/3)

However, the answer is actually sqrt(6/5) ! Any Ideas?
 
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Maybe consider the frequency of a compound pendulum.

f = (m*g*L / I)1/2/ (2 * π)

Aren't you going to want to be interested in the moment of inertia and not just the center of mass?

Edit: as davieddy points out the L in this case is the distance to the center of mass
 
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L (in your formula) is the distance of the center of mass from the pivot,
not the L specified in the question.
 
davieddy said:
L (in your formula) is the distance of the center of mass from the pivot,
not the L specified in the question.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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