Friction factor on very very low reynolds number

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The discussion centers on the challenges of measuring flow characteristics of castor oil in a 12 mm acrylic pipe at very low Reynolds numbers, specifically around 0.35. It is noted that a friction factor greater than 1 is not unusual for such low Reynolds numbers, especially in the context of oils, as evidenced by examples from motor oil. The participants clarify that the friction factor for laminar flow, calculated using the formula f = 64/Re, can yield high values without issue. Additionally, the viscosity of the oil, which can change with temperature, is acknowledged as a significant factor affecting flow behavior. The original poster seeks further resources on the rheology of oils to aid in their research.
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hai all,
I'm now doing a research about castor oil. I've a got a few a confusing problems..

1. to flow castor oil in a 12 mm acrylic pipe i use a reservoir 1 metres from the outlet. Because castor oil is very thick (dyn visc. = 0.5 Pa-m), the velocity of the flow is very low just about 0.02 m/s, therefore the reynolds number i got is very small just about 0.35. do u guys think it's normal? coz' I've never found any case that has a reynolds number below 1 in an internal flow.

2. related to the first question, i got the friction factor for laminar flow using the eg f=64/Re, so i got about 140-150. do u guys think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1.

that's my confusing problem, btw i don't want to use pump, because pump will break the oil's molecule.

please help me here. =)

Thanks.
 
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Very low Reynolds numbers are encountered with motor oils. I have an example of oil leakage past a cylinder head/bore in which Re = 0.0375.

The formula I have for volumetric flow rate is

Q = \frac{\pi\,\Delta{p}D^4}{128\,\mu\,L}, where D is pipe/tube diameter and L is pipe/tube length, p is pressure, and \mu is dynamic or absolute viscosity.

Q = V A where V is mean fluid velocity.

The f is probably correct for the Re, but I am not familiar with the application at such low Re.

What is the temperature of application?
 
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so u think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1 with such Reynolds number?
the temperatur is ambient about 30 deg Celcius
Thanks btw
 
han168 said:
so u think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1 with such Reynolds number?
the temperatur is ambient about 30 deg Celcius
Thanks btw

The friction factor for laminar flows can be derived analytically and has a value of 64/Re. There's no further problem if it is larger than one.
 
han168 said:
so u think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1 with such Reynolds number?
the temperatur is ambient about 30 deg Celcius
Thanks btw
It would appear to be normal for oils, e.g. motor oil in a warm engine. At some point, the oil temperature increases to around 100°C or slightly higher, so viscosity will vary considerably. The dimensions used in lubrication are generally very small (parallel surfaces).

As Clausius2 mentioned it should not be a problem. I believe that f = 64/Re is derived from the formula I posted by virtue of the definition of the Darcy friction factor - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darcy_Friction_factor

See also - http://web.umr.edu/~wlf/MW/HagPoi.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagen-Poiseuille_law
 
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thank you very much for the answers..i really really appreciates it. =)
 
continuing my research about oil for lubricants, could you guys tell me where can i find the rheology overview of oil (viscosity change under shear) chart?
i want to compare it with castor oil..
thanks
 
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