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The discussion centers on calculating the maximum RPM of a turntable that can hold a 5.0 g coin without it sliding off, given static and kinetic coefficients of friction. The relevant equations involve angular velocity, normal force, and frictional force, leading to the relationship between these variables. Participants work through the calculations, ultimately deriving the angular velocity in radians per second. The conversion to RPM requires translating revolutions per second into revolutions per minute using the factor of 60. The final calculations aim to determine the precise RPM limit before the coin begins to slip.
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A 5.0 g coin is placed 22 cm from the center of a turntable. The coin has static and kinetic coefficients of friction with the turntable surface of µs = 0.80 and µk = 0.50. What is the maximum rpm that the turntable could speed up to without the coin sliding off?



m = .005 kg
r = .22 m
µs = 0.8

Equations found..
v = angular velocity * r
Force(net) = m(v)^2 / r

Inertia > µs N when coin slips (?)

I believe this gets set equal to mg (Normal Force) but I haven't been able to generate the correct answer multiplying µs as a coefficient of either side.

I'm not sure what isn't being accounted for, what do I do?
 
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Looks like you have the right idea. slipping occurs when force > us*N.

can you show your calculations for angular velocity?
 
m(ω * r)^2 / r

simplifies to => m(r)(ω)^2

so,
mg * µs = m(r)(ω)^2 (?)
 
Umphreak89 said:
m(ω * r)^2 / r

simplifies to => m(r)(ω)^2

so,
mg * µs = m(r)(ω)^2 (?)

yes, solve for w. what do you get? you have to convert to rpm afterwards also.
 
(.005)(9.8)(.8) = (.005)(.22)(ω)^2
=> (9.8)(.8) = (.22)(ω)^2
=> 7.84 / .22 = ω^2
=> ω = (7.84 / .22)^(1/2) = 5.969

then I'm not sure how to convert this to rpms..
but, 5.969 / r = 27.134, where r = .22, which isn't right
 
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Umphreak89 said:
(.005)(9.8)(.8) = (.005)(.22)(ω)^2
=> (9.8)(.8) = (.22)(ω)^2
=> 7.84 / .22 = ω^2
=> ω = (7.84 / .22)^(1/2) = 5.969

then I'm not sure how to convert this to rpms..

first convert to revolutions/second. 1 revolution = 2*pi radians.

then convert to revolutions/minute by multiplying by 60.
 
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