Fundamental Frequency of a nano scale oscillator (graphene)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around estimating the fundamental frequency of vibration of nanoscale graphene ribbons, drawing parallels to classical string vibrations. Participants explore various models and assumptions related to the mechanics of these materials, including their dimensions, material properties, and the effects of tension.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the bond energy and distance to estimate tension in the graphene ribbon, acknowledging uncertainty in their classical mechanics knowledge.
  • Another participant notes that the frequency of a string is typically independent of amplitude, but questions this assumption for the ribbon, suggesting that it may flap like a flag due to zero tension at zero displacement.
  • A different participant proposes that the ribbon might be better modeled as a beam fixed at both ends, indicating that knowledge of Young's Modulus could help estimate the lowest natural frequency, while noting that axial tension would increase the frequency.
  • Another contributor raises the idea that the ribbon's thickness could influence its behavior, comparing it to a catenary chain and suggesting that oscillation modes may differ based on the ribbon's dimensions.
  • One participant likens the mechanical model of a 2D graphene ribbon to a static, multi-strand roller chain, implying a different mechanical perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate model for the graphene ribbon's vibration, with some favoring a beam model while others suggest a catenary or chain model. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to estimate the fundamental frequency.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about tension, the isotropic nature of graphene, and the impact of amplitude on frequency, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Hi everyone, long time lurker, first time poster.

I've just begun a phd which involves nanoribbons (a small strip of a 2D material connected at either end to a larger 'bulk' section of the same 2D material). A question has occurred to me. These nanoribbons look a lot like a piece of string in a violin/sonometer (although the tension is obviously not easily tuneable). This means that they should have a frequency of vibration like a piece of string in classical experiments. I'd really like to estimatethis (for fun, not homework or anything like that).

Using electron and ion microscopy we know what the width, height and breadth are. We know the density as we know the material. So basically in the equation attached, what we don't know is the tension. I guess this is going to be quite small anyway. The only thing I can think to do is estimate the number of atoms at each end and use the bond energy/distance. This will allow me to calculate a total force and use this as my upper bound on tension. I'm totally open to other ideas though, maybe using material properties or a different approach. My classical mechanics might be rusty too!

If you need anything clarified as well please just ask.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Maguirpi
 

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The vibration of a string is based on the assumption that the tension is independent of the displacement and that the restoring force is determined by displacement. Frequency is then not dependent on amplitude.

With a ribbon having zero tension at the zero displacement, the frequency of oscillation will be amplitude dependent. It will flap like a flag in the wind.
 
I suspect your "ribbon" is better described as a beam fixed at both ends. If you know Young's Modulus (or since grapheme is unlikely to be an isotropic material, the relevant modulus along the length of the ribbon) you can estimate the lowest natural frequency here: http://faculty.uml.edu/pavitabile/22.403/web_downloads/Frequencies_of_Common_Systems.PDF

If there is any axial tension the frequency will increase. See here:
http://www.vibrationdata.com/tutorials2/beam_axial_load.pdf

Since a beam has some elastic stiffness when the tension is zero, unlike a string, the effect of amplitude on frequency will to be second-order, so you can ignore it for reasonably small vibration amplitudes (i.e. when amplitude is the same order of magnitude as the thickness of the ribbon)
 
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This certainly is an interesting question.

Maybe it comes down to the thickness of the ribbon. Being described as 2D suggests a zero thickness which makes it more like a catenary chain than a beam.

There will be a mode where the ribbon oscillates sideways within its 2D plane. That will certainly conform to the beam model and have a higher frequency than waves propagating along the same catenary chain. The frequency will be independent of the ribbon thickness.
 

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