Fundamental Frequency of an organ

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The discussion revolves around the fundamental frequency of an organ pipe, specifically focusing on changes in frequency when the pipe is altered in length and configuration. The subject area includes concepts of standing waves and sound frequency in physics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how cutting the length of the organ pipe affects its fundamental frequency, with initial thoughts suggesting that halving the length doubles the frequency. There is also discussion on the effects of changing the pipe from open to closed at one end and the implications of using helium instead of air.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their reasoning and checking each other's conclusions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between frequency and pipe configuration, and multiple interpretations of the effects of these changes are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information available for discussion. There is an emphasis on understanding the principles rather than arriving at definitive answers.

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Homework Statement


An open organ pipe (i.e., a pipe open at both ends) of length L0 has a fundamental frequency f0.

Part A
If the organ pipe is cut in half, what is the new fundamental frequency?

4f0
2f0
f0
f0
f0

Part B
Part C

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Homework Equations



f=v/2L


The Attempt at a Solution



I am really confused by the standing waves and fundamental frequencies. The book does not do a good job explaining how this all works.

Anyways...for this individual problem I was thinking it might be 2f0.

if L is half as long, then the frequency is twice as big?
 
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Sounds good to me.
 
Thank you Kurdt. 2f0 was the correct answer.

Part B has revealed itself.

Part B
After being cut in half in Part A, the organ pipe is closed off at one end. What is the new fundamental frequency?


Homework Equations



f=v/2L


The Attempt at a Solution



The fundamental frequency of an open-closed tube is half that of an open-open or a closed-closed tube of the same length.

So...that means that the answer is f0/2?
 
Well be careful because remember the pipe was halved as well.
 
Hm...so...

Cutting it in half made the frequency 2f0

Then making it open-closed...

2f0/2 = f0?
 
Yes. That seems fine.
 
Part C
The air from the pipe in Part B (i.e., the original pipe after being cut in half and closed off at one end) is replaced with helium. (The speed of sound in helium is about three times faster than in air.). What is the approximate new fundamental frequency?

3f0
2f0
f0
f0/2
f0/3


I'm thinking the frequency gets bigger...so...3f0?

This is the last part of this question.
 
Yes that seems Ok too. :smile:
 

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