Fundamental parameter probabilities

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The discussion centers on the probabilities associated with fundamental parameters resulting from big bang events that allow for life formation. Currently, there is no comprehensive theory to determine the relationships between these parameters or the total number of big bang events. Even if the probability of a single big bang leading to life is extremely low, the sheer number of potential big bangs could make life possible. The conversation highlights that we cannot infer the habitability of the universe since we can only observe a universe that supports life. Ultimately, the probabilities are likely to lean towards either a single universe or an infinite number of attempts at creating habitable conditions.
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What are the odds that any particular big bang will result in the 20(?) fundamental parameters having the values that will allow life to form?
 
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Pjpic said:
What are the odds that any particular big bang will result in the 20(?) fundamental parameters having the values that will allow life to form?
Given as we don't yet have a theory of everything, we can't yet say what the relationships between the various parameters are (in full). Furthermore, we don't yet know how many such "big bang" events happened. So even if the probability for any single big bang event forming life is, for example, 10^-200, if there are in excess of 10^400 big bang events, then it's no problem.

Finally, it is worth mentioning the simple fact that we wouldn't exist if life weren't possible. A simple tautology, but worth pointing out, because it demonstrates that we can't infer anything at all about the habitability of the universe: no intelligent being can possibly observe a universe that isn't habitable.
 
So even if the probability for any single big bang event forming life is, for example, 10^-200,



Is 10^-200 ballpark given what we know?
 
Pjpic said:
So even if the probability for any single big bang event forming life is, for example, 10^-200,
Is 10^-200 ballpark given what we know?
No. It's just a random number I threw out there. There is no way to say at the current time, because we don't yet know what the probability distribution of possible outcomes of big bang-like events is.
 
The odds are likely to be very close to either 1 or infinity. Either only one universe was the most probable outcome - and we can see that it is our own and supports life. Or there must have been a near infinity of goes at producing universes, and we just happen to be in the lucky outlier.

The two perspectives can be combined of course. As in evolving multiverse scenarios where from infinite variety there is a gradual evolution by replication towards maximally complex universes.

So Bayesian approaches would rule out much of the middle ground of probability and favour the opposing extremes I suggest.
 
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