Gauge Pressure at the Bottom of Ocean on Mars

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The discussion centers on calculating the gauge pressure at the bottom of a hypothetical 0.5 km deep ocean on Mars, using the formula p = ρgh with Mars' gravity of 3.71 m/s². The calculated absolute pressure is 1,855,000 Pa, but there is confusion regarding the inclusion of atmospheric pressure in determining gauge pressure. It is clarified that gauge pressure can be calculated by neglecting atmospheric pressure, as it is essentially the pressure due to the water column alone. For part (b), the same gauge pressure can be used to find the equivalent depth in Earth's ocean by applying Earth's gravitational acceleration. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the distinction between absolute and gauge pressure in different atmospheric conditions.
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Homework Statement



Scientists have found evidence that Mars may once have had an ocean .5km deep. The acceleration due to gravity on Mars is 3.71m/s^2.

(a) What would be the gauge pressure at the bottom of such an ocean, assuming it was freshwater?
(b) To what depth would you need to go in the Earth's ocean to experience the same gauge pressure?

Homework Equations



p=p_{0}+ρgh

gauge pressure = absolute pressure - atmospheric pressure

The Attempt at a Solution



What I'm thinking is that I can calculate the absolute pressure by using p=ρgh, so p=(1000)(3.71)(500)=1855000 Pa.

But I think I'm getting a little confused about my absolute and atmospheric pressures. Absolute should be the pressure at the bottom of 500m, I believe. What should I be using for my atmospheric pressure?
 
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forestmine said:

Homework Equations



p=p_{0}+ρgh

gauge pressure = absolute pressure - atmospheric pressure

if P = absolute pressure, then P-P0 would be the gauge pressure wouldn't it? (or just 'ρgh'.

forestmine said:

The Attempt at a Solution



What I'm thinking is that I can calculate the absolute pressure by using p=ρgh, so p=(1000)(3.71)(500)=1855000 Pa.

But I think I'm getting a little confused about my absolute and atmospheric pressures. Absolute should be the pressure at the bottom of 500m, I believe. What should I be using for my atmospheric pressure?
 
Ok, so you're saying I've already calculated the gauge pressure by neglecting p_{0} in my earlier equation?

If that's the case, how would I go about solving part b?
 
I am pretty sure that gauge pressure doesn't involve atmospheric pressure. Since Mars' atmosphere is quite different to Earth's, atmospheric pressure there has a value different than 101 kPa.
Anyway, the only equation you need is P = pgh (p is density; my cell phone doesn't have rho).
 
forestmine said:
Ok, so you're saying I've already calculated the gauge pressure by neglecting p_{0} in my earlier equation?

If that's the case, how would I go about solving part b?

Right, well you'd use the gauge pressure you got earlier and using the same formula just with Earth values i.e. the value of 'g' on Earth.
 
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