General questions about Electric fields and how to manipulate/produce them.

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The discussion revolves around the nature of electric fields, particularly how external electric fields may interact with the electric fields produced by the human brain. Participants explore the implications of these interactions, especially in the context of measuring brain activity using EEG and the potential effects of external electric fields on brain function.

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  • One participant questions whether an external electric field can interfere with the brain's electric field during specific activities, suggesting a scenario involving EEG measurements.
  • Another participant mentions the superposition principle, indicating that electric fields from all sources combine to create a total electric field.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether an external electric field would cancel out the brain's electric field, leading to a discussion about reinforcement and cancellation of electric fields.
  • It is noted that while external electric fields can alter the brain's electric field, they do not simply cancel it out; rather, they can push charges around in the brain, resulting in a different electric field configuration.
  • One participant humorously suggests that strong external electric fields, such as those from a microwave oven, can affect the brain, although this is presented in a cautionary context.
  • There is an acknowledgment that the effects of external electric fields on thoughts, emotions, and moods are complex and not well understood.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how external electric fields interact with the brain's electric field, with some suggesting reinforcement and others indicating that they can alter the brain's electric field without simple cancellation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific effects and mechanisms involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of external electric fields on brain activity, particularly concerning thoughts and emotions, indicating that this area is complex and not fully explored.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying neuroscience, electrical engineering, or anyone curious about the interactions between electric fields and biological systems.

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If my question is lacking something in terms of its validity, please let me know (I am not too seasoned in electric fields) :)

Here is the source of my question: http://phys.org/news198350025.html

Ok... The brain produces it own electric field, by firing neurons and the chemicals that produce activities in the brain (electrical).

So, as the article suggests, a electric field can interfere with the brains electric field.

I am trying to get a visual image of this. So, when the brain is doing something specific, and creating a certain electric field, is it possible to introduce a outside electric field that will interfere with the brains electric field?

If I was to do some activity, and measure my brains electrical field with a EEG... Then do the same type of activity, but within a different outside electric field (like If I was in a parallel plate capacitor), is that possible?

How does the outside electric field difference (like if I was inside a parallel plate cap), interfere with the brains electric field?
 
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nukeman said:
I am trying to get a visual image of this. So, when the brain is doing something specific, and creating a certain electric field, is it possible to introduce a outside electric field that will interfere with the brains electric field?
yes
If I was to do some activity, and measure my brains electrical field with a EEG... Then do the same type of activity, but within a different outside electric field (like If I was in a parallel plate capacitor), is that possible?
yes.
How does the outside electric field difference (like if I was inside a parallel plate cap), interfere with the brains electric field?
Electric fields from all sources add together to make the total electric field. Look up "superposition principle".
 
Ok great.

You are saying that all electric fields add up to one electric force. Does that mean any outside electric field will be canceled out?

Mainly, are you saying that when I introduce an outside electric force, it will both add up to one electric force, but that conversion to one electric field will alter the brains electric field?
 
An electric field can certainly interfere with the human brain, if it's strong enough.

:devil:If you stick your head in a microwave oven, you'll find it quite capable of affecting you.:devil:Errr...I assume of course you're not that stupid.
 
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nukeman said:
Ok great.

You are saying that all electric fields add up to one electric force. Does that mean any outside electric field will be canceled out?
No. I am saying they all add up. This means that some will cancel and some will reinforce.
Mainly, are you saying that when I introduce an outside electric force, it will both add up to one electric force, but that conversion to one electric field will alter the brains electric field?
No - the brains electric field combines with all the other fields to make the total electric field.
However - outside fields could push charges around in the brain (as with anything) so the brain's electric field will be different from the case where there is no field.

I take it you are interested in stuff like external electric fields affecting other stuff like thoughts, emotions and moods? That's a lot more complicated and afaik nobody has been able to do anything much in that line.
 

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