Generating electrical energy using an intermediate reference frame

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The discussion centers on a proposed technology for generating electrical energy based on the principle of relativity of simultaneity from Einstein's theory. Participants express skepticism about the validity of using "moving reference frames," arguing that the focus should be on the relative motion of physical objects rather than abstract reference frames. Concerns are raised regarding the clarity and accuracy of the author's claims, suggesting that the underlying physics can be explained without invoking relativity. The conversation highlights confusion over the relationship between magnetic fields and electric fields in the context of the proposed technology. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for clearer communication and understanding of fundamental physics principles in the development of this technology.
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Unfortunately, in the installation of post #5, I cannot measure the energy characteristics, I cannot compare the energy expended on the movement of the "U"-shaped wire and the electrical energy received. To test the hypothesis, I designed a generator, which is currently being manufactured. I hope that it will allow me to measure the energy characteristics. The main question is as follows. My conclusions and results are based on official science, but if they are correct, we have a violation of the law of conservation of energy. Perhaps this is explained by Noether's theorem that the law of conservation of energy is a consequence of the uniformity of time. Since time is not uniform in this process, the conservation law is not fulfilled. Either there is some kind of error in my results. I would like to understand this.
 
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The attachment contains files that depict the evolution of the design from this drawing to a generator that uses the movement of a system that is not in a magnetic field (this is a pulley and brushes). If the generator shows operability, instead of brushes, you can use the rotation of a liquid conductor in the channel, for example, mercury.
 

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  • #33
In post #5, where is the magnetic field and its direction?
 
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In #5, the magnetic field is positioned this way
 
  • #35
This technology has another effect. When the external reference frame moves, an electric current flows in a closed electrical circuit. This current, flowing through a conductor located in a magnetic field, is affected by the Ampere force, which tends to move the conductor in the direction of rotation of the external reference frame. Thus, by rotating a light external frame of reference, we can drag (rotate) a heavy body behind it (the frame of reference of a conductor with a magnetic field). This property can be used in vehicles.
 
  • #36
Baluncore said:
As the external circuit slides in and out, it cuts more or less magnetic field.
The essential condition of the proposed hypothesis is that the external circuit is not in a magnetic field during its movement. That's the whole point.
 
  • #37
berkeman said:
Thread is moved to the EE forum and reopened provisionally.


Welcome to PF.

What is the source of energy that you want to convert with this moving reference frame? I am not able to tell from the document whether it is just another interpretation of a simple mechanical induction generator (but with moving frame references), or if you are trying to imply that there is some magical over-unity way to make an energy conversion. Can you clarify please? Thanks.
An induction generator uses an alternating process ("Induction"), resulting in an electrodynamic field. Such a field allows you to increase the ampere turns and eventually get a higher current or a higher voltage. The proposed design uses a continuous process ("Influenz"), resulting in an electrostatic field. Such a field does not allow to increase the ampere turns, since the linear integral along the closed path is zero. I admit, I spent a lot of time trying to increase the ampere turns until I realized the true nature of the electric field.
 
  • #38
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the opportunity to consider the idea on the forum. It is an incredible event and a great honor for me to communicate with you. Unfortunately, attempts to consider the idea with the Russian scientific community ended in failure. Nobody in Russia is interested in this. No one wanted to even delve into the essence of the issue. I would like to draw the attention of the scientific community to this idea, because if it is true, it has enormous significance for all mankind. I am ready to provide any assistance in its consideration and implementation. Thank you again. Thank you for inventing the Internet and many other useful things that we use.
 
  • #39
Ivan Nikiforov said:
if it is true, it has enormous significance for all mankind.
Why? Do you think you have a generator topology that has higher efficiency than current generators? Current generators have efficiencies above 90% [1]. Please show us your improved generator topology and compare it to traditional generator designs, and point out why yours is more efficient. Please post the math that shows this increased efficiency. Thank you.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/generator-efficiency
 
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berkeman said:
Why? Do you think you have a generator topology that has higher efficiency than current generators? Current generators have efficiencies above 90% [1]. Please show us your improved generator topology and compare it to traditional generator designs, and point out why yours is more efficient. Please post the math that shows this increased efficiency. Thank you.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/generator-efficiency
In existing generators, when the load current flows, an Ampere force appears, which resists the primary engine (turbine, internal combustion engine). The main energy expended by the primary engine is aimed at overcoming the Ampere force. Energy is being converted in accordance with the law of conservation of energy, since the process takes place within a single frame of reference in which time is homogeneous.

In the generator that I propose to consider, the Ampere force does not act on the primary motor, since it drives an external reference frame that is not in a magnetic field and on which the Ampere force does not act. This means that the resistance to the primary motor is represented only by mechanical resistance (bearing friction, air resistance, etc.).

It turns out that such a generator operates with a efficiency greater than 1, due to the fact that the law of conservation of energy is not fulfilled, since time is not uniform during its operation. The process of operation of the generator takes place in two frames of reference for which the relativity of simultaneity takes place. These are the results I get.

Therefore, I ask you to consider the idea together in order to prove or disprove this hypothesis. If the hypothesis is correct, we will get an inexhaustible source of energy. If the hypothesis is incorrect, we will expand the horizons of our knowledge.
 
  • #41
Ivan Nikiforov said:
It turns out that such a generator operates with a efficiency greater than 1, due to the fact that the law of conservation of energy is not fulfilled, since time is not uniform during its operation.
Yup, I thought that's where you were going with this. We do not discuss pseudoscience or over-unity mechanisms on PF. This thread is done.
 
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