Generating electrical power from moisture?

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The discussion revolves around the generation of electrical power from moisture, specifically focusing on the mechanisms involved in moisture-enabled electric generators (MEGs). Participants explore various aspects of this emerging technology, including charge separation, the role of nanomaterials, and the interactions between water droplets and surfaces.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention the use of a hygroscopic layer on nanomaterials to facilitate charge separation and distribution in water droplets.
  • One participant references a publication discussing various types of voltaic cells and self-powered sensors related to MEGs.
  • Questions are raised about the specifics of charge separation in the setup, including the type of charge carried by water droplets and their interaction with nanomaterial surfaces.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of ion diffusion, suggesting that differences in ion concentration between the moist environment and solid materials could lead to electrical potential generation.
  • Concerns are expressed regarding the potential degradation of materials due to pH changes in the water as a result of the solid's influence.
  • Participants speculate on the role of triboelectric effects and chemical reactions in generating electrical potential, including the impact of the double electric layer on capacitance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of questions and hypotheses about the mechanisms of moisture-enabled electricity generation, with no consensus reached on the specifics of charge interactions or the implications of material degradation.

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Limitations include uncertainties regarding the exact mechanisms of charge separation, the significance of droplet size, and the effects of material properties on the generation process.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring energy harvesting technologies, electrokinetics, and the potential applications of nanomaterials in power generation.

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hello
recently there was a report about generation of electrical power from moisture. Does someone have some details of this process? Would be interessant to try.
Key points: hygroscopic layer on nanomaterial; charge separation; charge distribution in water drops;
 
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Thank you for this interesting question. It seems beyond my experience with this emerging energy-harvesting technology called a moisture-enabled electric generator (MEG). This publication seems to cover a diverse range of 3 types of voltaic cells and self-powered sensors. Feel free to ask for more info here with your level of interest.
 
hello, thanks for inviting to further inquiries. honestly, I myself didn't understand the paper in the point, how charge separation exactly works in the special setup. Which kind of charge is carried by the water drops. How do they interact with the walls of the nano material. Does drop size matter?

So a lot of questions. We'll see whether more details will be reported and discussed in the time to come. For me this news is a trigger to occupy bit more with questions of different forms of electro kinetics in general: capillarity, nano generators, triboelectricity - questions that should be pursued with renewed interest within the framework of the debate about new energy resources.
 
I am reading : Ion Diffusion: There is a difference in ion concentration between the moist environment and the solid material, ions will naturally migrate across the material. This migration creates an electrical potential that can be harvested to generate electricity. I suspect the solid must change the pH of the water from 7 acidic or base but then that means degradation to me.
Streaming potential: This could be the triboelectric effects with friction.
Surface charge potential: Chemical reactions? Double Electric Layer effect increases capacitance. High energy 1.5V alkaline to Li Ion cells often have 10 kFarads per cell = These batteries will be far less.
 

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