Geodesic Sphere Homework: Prove Great Circle Path is Shortest

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The problem involves proving that the geodesic, or shortest path, between two points on a sphere is a great circle. It utilizes the Euler-Lagrange equation in the context of calculus of variations, focusing on a specific integral related to the geometry of the sphere.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Euler-Lagrange equation and the implications of the hint provided in the problem statement. There is confusion regarding the constant 'C' and its value when specific conditions are applied, particularly at the angle θ = 0. Some participants explore the relationship between the constants and the resulting paths on the sphere.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and mathematical manipulations. Some have reached a point of clarity regarding the value of 'C' and its implications for the function φ(θ), while others are still questioning the assumptions and the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the choice of the z-axis is arbitrary, which may affect the interpretation of the angles involved. There is also mention of the boundedness of φ' and its implications for the constants in the equations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


L = R \int_{\theta_1}^{\theta_2} \sqrt{1 + sin^2(\theta ) \phi ' ^ 2} d\theta

Use the result to prove that the geodesic (shortest path) between two given points on a sphere is a great circle. [Hint: The integrand f(phi,phi_prime,theta) in the result is independent of phi so the Euler-Lagrange equation reduces to partial_f/partial_phi_prime = c, a constant. This gives you phi_prime as a function of theta. You can avoid doing the final integral by the following trick: There is no loss of generality in choosing your z axis to pass through the point 1. Show that with this choice the constant c is necessarily zero and describe the corresponding geodesics.

Homework Equations



\partial f / \partial x = d/du \partial f / \partial x'

The Attempt at a Solution



I am having a bit of difficulty interpreting this problem. Using the Euler-Lagrange equation I get the following:
\phi ' ^ 2 = C^2 / ( sin^4 (\theta ) - C^2 sin^2(\theta )
The hint kind of confusing me. How can 'c' be zero? If I were to have the z-axis at point 1, I would think that \theta_1 = 0 if anything.

Can anyone help guide me on the right path for this problem?
 
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roeb said:
I am having a bit of difficulty interpreting this problem. Using the Euler-Lagrange equation I get the following:
\phi ' ^ 2 = C^2 / ( sin^4 (\theta ) - C^2 sin^2(\theta )

It might be more useful to write this as:

\left( sin^4 (\theta ) - C^2 sin^2(\theta ) \right) \phi ' ^ 2 = C^2

I think the point of the hint is that the above relation holds for all allowable values of \theta and that \theta=0 is one such allowable value. What does C^2 equal when \theta=0 assuming that \phi' is bounded (i.e. not infinite)? Since C is a constant, it must have this value for all \theta.
 
Thanks for your reply.

Now I can see why C = 0. If I am doing my math correctly that means \phi (\theta ) = A (another constant).

If \phi (\theta ) is just some constant, does that mean this constant A will be a segment of the great circle between two locations on the sphere?
 
As the choice of axis is arbitrary, you can choose one such that \theta is zero. Then varying \phi (which as you point out should have no \theta dependence) is just tracing out a great circle.
 

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