Geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces?

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The discussion explores the idea that gravity may not be a traditional "force" but rather a result of motion through curved geometry. It questions whether other forces, like electromagnetism, could also be understood as effects of geometry rather than forces in the conventional sense. Current theories, including quantum physics, suggest that gravity is mediated by particles called gravitons, while general relativity focuses solely on gravity without addressing other forces. The integration of gravity with other fundamental forces remains an unresolved challenge in theoretical physics. Overall, the conversation highlights the ongoing quest to unify gravity with the other forces within the framework of spacetime geometry.
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Just wondering... so the conception is that gravity is not really a "force" but rather the consequence of shortest-path motion through curved geometry. Are there analogues for the other forces? I know gravity is not yet theoretically unified with the other forces. But is there nonetheless some conception of, say, the attractions and repulsions of the electromagnetic force actually being a consequence of motion of matter through strange geometry rather than a "force" as we usually think of the word? If not, what is the theoretical mechanism of the attractive/repulsive properties of non-gravitational forces and how do they differ from gravity?
 
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The question is imo if gravity represents interconnectivity of everything. If your definition includes interconnectivity the basic 'gravity system' must be primary (first) to matter. In that case also EM and radiation is also includes in the geometry of spacetime curvature.
In my idea everything is just restructered gravity.
 
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Just wondering... so the conception is that gravity is not really a "force" but rather the consequence of shortest-path motion through curved geometry. Are there analogues for the other forces? I know gravity is not yet theoretically unified with the other forces. But is there nonetheless some conception of, say, the attractions and repulsions of the electromagnetic force actually being a consequence of motion of matter through strange geometry rather than a "force" as we usually think of the word? If not, what is the theoretical mechanism of the attractive/repulsive properties of non-gravitational forces and how do they differ from gravity?

Quantum physics would say no, and gravity isn't either, it's carried by a particle, the graviton.

GR per se doesn't know about anything but gravity.

QGR, like GR is all about gravity (well, all about quantizing spacetime) and doesn't say anything about other forces, but I would think that their enterprise would be eventually to provide some account of the other forces in the context of quantized spacetime. I have no idea what that would be.


At the present time the combination of the other forces and gravity continues to be shaky.
 
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