Geometric Optics: Solving for Position & Nature of Image

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An object placed 400 mm in front of a convex lens with a focal length of 80 mm produces an image at 100 mm. The second convex lens, with a magnifying power of X8, is positioned 125 mm behind the first lens, leading to a calculated focal length of approximately 28.6 mm. The magnifying power is often defined in relation to diopters, suggesting a need to consider effective focal length due to lens separation. The discussion highlights confusion around the formulas and the context of magnification. Overall, understanding the relationship between the lenses and their respective positions is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


An object is placed 400 mm in front of a convex lens of focal length 80 mm. Find the position of the image formed. State the nature of this image.

A second convex lens of magnifying power X8 is placed 125 mm behind the first convex lens.
What is the focal length of this lens?
Find the position of the final image formed and state its nature.



The Attempt at a Solution



So the first part is pretty easy,

\frac{1}{U} + \frac{1}{V} = \frac{1}{F}

\frac{1}{V} = \frac{1}{80} - \frac{1}{400}

V = 100 mm


Next part is where I'm unsure. Here's my attempt,

m = \frac{-V}{U}

8 = \frac{-V}{U}

8 = \frac{-V}{25}

V = -200mm

\frac{1}{U} + \frac{1}{V} = \frac{1}{F}

\frac{1}{F} = \frac{1}{25} - \frac{1}{200}

F = 28.6 mm

Is this the correct method?

Thanks.
 
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The second lens magnifying power is defined (most of the time) by 1/4 diopters + 1. It is not a function of where the object is placed. So 8 = 1/4 d + 1, solve for d, then f = 1/d in meters. But now you have 2 lenses with a distance between them so your job now is to come up with the effective focal length of the two lenses with their separation accounted for.
 
Hmm, that's strange. What if I put this into context and said I was a freshman and had never encountered this formula before?
 
Darth Frodo said:
Hmm, that's strange. What if I put this into context and said I was a freshman and had never encountered this formula before?

If it's any consolation, I had to look up the meaning of a " ... lens with magnification power of x" also. And I got my degree in 1962!

And it's always possible the question had a different intent, like maybe the magnification of the object was 8 after inserting the second lens ...
 
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