What is the Proof for the Sum to Infinity of an Infinite Geometric Progression?

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The discussion centers on proving that the sum to infinity of an infinite geometric progression is three times the first term, given that the sum of all terms after the nth is twice the nth term. The relevant equations for the sum of a finite and infinite geometric series are provided. The user attempts to derive the relationship but encounters a contradiction in their calculations, suggesting either a mistake or an error in the source material. A key insight is that assuming the first term is non-zero leads to the conclusion that the common ratio must be 2/3. The user is encouraged to re-evaluate their series with this ratio to verify the result.
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Homework Statement



An infinite geometric progression is such that the sum of all the terms after the nth is equal to twice the nth term. Show that the sum to infinity of the whole progression is three times the first term.

Homework Equations


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S_{n} = \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r}\\<br /> S_{\infty} = \frac{a}{1-r}\\<br />
Where a is equal to the first term of the geometric series and r is equal to the common ratio.

The Attempt at a Solution


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The sum of all the terms after the nth =
\frac{a}{1-r} - \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r}<br />

Twice the nth term =
2ar^{n-1}\\<br />

So
\frac{a}{1-r} - \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r} = 2ar^{n-1}\\<br />
I need to show that
\frac{a}{1-r} = 3a\\<br />

\frac{a}{1-r} - \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r} = 2ar^{n-1}\\<br /> a = 2ar^{n-1}(1-r) + a(1-r^n)\\<br /> 2ar^{n-1}=3ar^{n}\\<br /> \frac{2a}{r}=3a<br />

But
<br /> \frac{2a}{r} \ne \frac{a}{1-r}<br />
So either I've made an error, or much less likely, the author of the book has.
 
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Appleton said:

Homework Statement



An infinite geometric progression is such that the sum of all the terms after the nth is equal to twice the nth term. Show that the sum to infinity of the whole progression is three times the first term.

Homework Equations


[/B]
S_{n} = \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r}\\<br /> S_{\infty} = \frac{a}{1-r}\\<br />
Where a is equal to the first term of the geometric series and r is equal to the common ratio.

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
The sum of all the terms after the nth =
\frac{a}{1-r} - \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r}<br />

Twice the nth term =
2ar^{n-1}\\<br />

So
\frac{a}{1-r} - \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r} = 2ar^{n-1}\\<br />
I need to show that
\frac{a}{1-r} = 3a\\<br />

\frac{a}{1-r} - \frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r} = 2ar^{n-1}\\<br /> a = 2ar^{n-1}(1-r) + a(1-r^n)\\<br /> 2ar^{n-1}=3ar^{n}\\<br /> \frac{2a}{r}=3a<br />

So either I've made an error, or much less likely, the author of the book has.

Assuming ##a \ne 0## that last equation tells you that ##r = 2/3##. Use that to write down your series again and see if the result isn't true.
 
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Thanks for your reply, it seems I lost sight of the bigger picture.
 
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