Gerotor style turbine , or gasoline engine

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The discussion centers on the efficiency of gerotor style pumps compared to conventional water turbines and the potential for a gerotor gasoline engine. Participants highlight that gerotor pumps have two rotating, balanced parts, which allows for significant power output even at low water flow rates. The conversation also explores the feasibility of a gerotor-based gasoline engine, suggesting it could operate more efficiently and quietly than traditional engines like the Wankel, which suffers from vibration issues. However, the efficiency of gerotor systems must also account for factors such as fluid compression, heating, and leakage.

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Gerotor style "turbine", or gasoline engine

Hi,

I have read a bit about gerotor style pumps. It seems to me that there is only two rotating, balanced parts. If water pressure can enter on one side, the water have no where else to go than through the gerotor before it can continue. The difference from a gerotor and a conventional water turbine is that if you stop the turbine, water can still flow through it. However, if we stop the gerotor, water will also stop flowing. This enables great power output even at very slow water flow.

So in my opinion, a gerotary style power generator should be far more efficient than a turbine.

To the gerotor gasoline engine idea:
As described above, a gerotor has two rotating, balanced parts - that's all. What if the change in volume between inner and outer gear acts like pistons in a normal engine. Shouldn't it be quite possible to make a very efficient and silent gasoline engine that is true rotary - with no vibrations?

I know that a Wankel engine have rotating parts, but the "piston" in a Wankel engine is actually moving up and down as a piston because the shaft is not centered on the rotating part, and makes lots of vibrations as well.

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No, that is no basis for concluding that the gerotor is more or less efficient than other pumps.

To consider efficiency, you also must consider what the pump does to the fluid other than move it. Compression, and heating must be considered in addition to leakage. And those things depend on the fluid. Air? Water? Hyraaulic oil?
 

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