Giant Rocket Plume - Nuclear Saltwater Rocket Concept Discussion

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of a nuclear saltwater rocket, which uses plutonium or uranium salts in water to start a nuclear chain reaction outside of the engine. This combines the TWR of the nuclear pusher plate concept with the constant thrust of a rocket. The participants then discuss the potential of using a nuclear blast in the rocket's reaction chamber and the resulting plume and shockwave. However, it is noted that in space, nuclear explosions do not create traditional shockwaves, but rather emit debris and radiation.
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This is not a spaceflight based forum, so I do not expect all to be familiar with Zubrin's nuclear saltwater rocket concept. Basically a rocket that uses plutonium or uranium salts in water to start a nuclear chain reaction which is supposed to happen somehow outside the engine (as it is getting expelled as exhaust?).

The result is to combine the TWR of the nuclear pusher plate concept (AKA Project Orion, a relic of the Cold War) with the constant thrust of a rocket.

Scifi can improve on that and here is where discussion comes:

Imagine a rocket reaction chamber that literally detonates a nuke inside. And shoots it out the nozzle.

Just assume the engine and nozzle are strengthened by strong force manipulation or something.

Would not the nuclear blast shot out the nozzle into the atmosphere look like a giant plume?

Morphing into an ice cream cone as it expands with a shockwave?

Discuss.
 
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Bab5space said:
Would not the nuclear blast shot out the nozzle into the atmosphere look like a giant plume?

Morphing into an ice cream cone as it expands with a shockwave?
Sure. A plume with pulses, though. Like from a pulse-jet engine.
 
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You increased the solid angle coverage of the pusher plate a bit, basically. Potentially a little bit more thrust but much more stress for the plate.

In space nuclear explosions don't make nice shockwaves. You get some debris from the nuclear weapon that flies apart at high speed, many individual atoms flying away, and radiation expanding in a sphere at the speed of light (for an observer it looks like a single very brief flash of light). That's it.
 

1. What is a nuclear saltwater rocket?

A nuclear saltwater rocket (NSWR) is a theoretical type of rocket propulsion system that uses nuclear fission reactions to heat and expel a highly pressurized stream of superheated water vapor. This concept was first proposed in the 1960s as a potential method for interstellar travel.

2. How does a nuclear saltwater rocket work?

The NSWR works by injecting a small amount of enriched uranium into a tank of liquid hydrogen and lithium fluoride, also known as "nuclear saltwater". The uranium undergoes a chain reaction, heating the liquid and creating a high-pressure steam that is expelled through a nozzle at the back of the rocket, providing thrust.

3. What are the advantages of a nuclear saltwater rocket?

The main advantage of an NSWR is its high specific impulse, which is a measure of how efficiently a rocket uses its fuel. The specific impulse of an NSWR is estimated to be around 10,000 seconds, which is significantly higher than traditional chemical rockets. This would allow for faster and more efficient space travel.

4. What are the potential risks of a nuclear saltwater rocket?

One of the main concerns with NSWRs is the potential for nuclear accidents and radiation exposure. In addition, the high temperatures and pressures involved in the reaction could also pose technical challenges and safety risks. There are also ethical concerns surrounding the use of nuclear technology for space travel.

5. Is a nuclear saltwater rocket currently being developed?

While the concept of an NSWR has been studied and discussed for decades, there are currently no plans for its development or implementation. The technology is still largely theoretical and would require significant advancements in nuclear engineering and rocket propulsion before it could be considered a feasible option for space travel.

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