Glass amenable to writing with a graphite pencil

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of writing on glass surfaces with a graphite pencil, exploring the properties of different types of glass and their interaction with pencil lead. Participants share experiences and suggestions regarding materials that may allow for writing and erasing, focusing on both practical applications and theoretical considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that writing on standard glass is ineffective due to its low coefficient of friction and suggests that the matte surface of the e-book reader may facilitate writing.
  • Another participant proposes exploring glass with different coefficients of friction or using a softer graphite pencil with less clay to improve writing capability.
  • A suggestion is made to use a china marker, which is designed for writing on glass and can be easily wiped off without scratching the surface.
  • One participant expresses a desire to use an HB pencil specifically and emphasizes the need to find glass with a higher coefficient of friction, questioning the finishes and additives in the glass.
  • A recommendation is made to try slightly frosted picture-frame glass, which may resemble the surfaces of electronic screens.
  • A later reply discusses the properties of specialized glass used in touch screens, suggesting that such glass may not be readily available for general use.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific type of glass that would work for writing with a graphite pencil. Multiple competing views and suggestions are presented, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence the effectiveness of writing on glass, including surface finishes, coefficients of friction, and the composition of pencil lead. These factors remain unresolved and are subject to further investigation.

deftfyodor
For a while I've used an IREX DR800 e-book reader, and in the course of my experimentations, I have observed that I can actually write directly onto the screen with a graphite pencil, and erase with a cotton t-shirt. I've been trying to find a larger piece of glass which yields similar effects, but I've been met with little success. Of course pencil doesn't take to standard glass, and there are erasibility problems with frosted glass. Anyone have a clue on a type of glass which accomplishes what I'm looking for?
 
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I think the reason you cannot write on standard glass with graphite is due to the low coefficient of friction of the material. Perhaps the ebook readers surface is matte enough, presumably to diffuse light, reduce glare, etc. and so can be written on.

You might look for glass with different coefficients of friction. Or try using a graphite pencil with less clay. The less clay, the softer the lead, the more likely it is to write on smooth glass.
 
Have you considered a china marker? They are made for writing on glass, they don't scratch, and are easily wiped off. I've used these for ages and can be bought just about anywhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grease_pencil
 
Sure, I understand that if I take smooth glass as a given, I can vary the pencil to positive effect. What I'm going for is a method of using an HB pencil with the glass.

QuarkCharmer:

I absolutely agree with everything you are saying, however the game is finding That glass with the higher coefficient of friction. What finish is applied? What additives are in the glass? &c.
 
you might try the very slightly frosted picture-frame glass that you can find in any drugstore or stationary store. I APPEARANCE at least those are very similar to some electronics screens.
 
deftfyodor said:
Sure, I understand that if I take smooth glass as a given, I can vary the pencil to positive effect. What I'm going for is a method of using an HB pencil with the glass.

QuarkCharmer:

I absolutely agree with everything you are saying, however the game is finding That glass with the higher coefficient of friction. What finish is applied? What additives are in the glass? &c.
I don't have an exact answer to your question but read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Glass

and have a look at this video:

http://goodereader.com/blog/tablet-...s-2-where-screen-display-technology-might-go/

The property that allows you to write with a pencil on your ebook is probably something manufactured into the glass to allow it to be a touch screen whose visibility won't be affected by fingerprints/skin oils. Glass like this may not be available outside touch screen applications.
 

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