Solid,liquid,gas,plasma states explained

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The discussion revolves around the states of matter—solid, liquid, gas, and plasma—and the underlying atomic interactions that dictate these states. Participants explore various theories and hypotheses regarding how temperature and electromagnetic fields influence the behavior of atoms and molecules in different states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that atoms become solids when they are closer together, while they transition to liquids and gases as they are forced apart by changes in temperature and electromagnetic field strengths.
  • Another participant provides a simplified description of the states of matter, stating that solids have joined molecules, liquids have unjoined molecules, gases are similar to liquids but at a higher energy state, and plasma is gas with added charge.
  • A participant questions the previous claims by arguing that pressure in gases must be due to the repulsion of electrons, challenging the notion that this is not the case.
  • Another participant introduces a perspective based on Quantum theory, proposing an alternative to the Big Bang theory that incorporates a minimum energy level and relates ancient Greek concepts of infinity to modern physics.
  • A participant clarifies that their intention was not to disprove any claims but to present a coherent version of the ideas discussed.
  • One participant posits that heat energy converts into negative electromagnetic charge, which could explain the expansion of atoms and the resulting air pressure, though they acknowledge that this idea may not be correct.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind the states of matter and the nature of atomic interactions. There is no consensus on the explanations provided, and multiple competing theories are presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about electromagnetic fields and atomic behavior that are not fully explored or defined. The discussion includes speculative ideas that may not align with established scientific principles.

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In oder for atoms to become a solid they have to get closer to each other,to become a solid,as they are forced away from one another they become liquids,farther they become gas,and when thet become plasma the atoms kick the electrons out of there shell and wpn't let them rebond.this can be explained quit simply.the atoms as they get hotter to become a gas,or colder to become a solid,change there eloectromagnetiuc field strengths.the hotter they get to less their positive field is and the more their negative field becomes.so the outer electron repel against the surrounding atoms electron thus forcing them apart creating gases,as they are super heated the negative field of the neutron,or the lessing positive field of the proton is not enough to keep the electrons in orbit.on the down side,as the electrons fields decrease as the atoms get colder,the negative field of the electrons reduce allowing the atoms to get closer to each other thus giving it thye ability to become a solid,be this hypothesis i believe one can deduce that absolute zero can't be achieved.when the atoms electrons field becomes to small,even though the positive field of the proton increases to keep the electrons in orbit,if the electrons fields becomes zero the and if the neutrons have a negative field giving it the ability to bond with the proton,with a 2 positive to one negative in the nucleus with the one electron to make it neutral,the atoms would fly apart,and that can't happen,so the two fields of the atoms increase and decrease do to heat or cold changing the fields either way,to makes matter be a solid,liquid,gas or plasma!
 
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Solid: molecules are joined together.

Liquid: molecules are not joined together.

Gas: same as liquid but at a higher energy state.

Plasma: take one cup of gas, and add charge.
 
so what you saying is that if you but water as a liquid in metal can and heat it,when the can explodes when it became a gas,is not do to the increased repulsion of the electrons relavent to each other,how else is pressure created then,if not this way,the repel each other away from one another creating gas pressure,you don't bother me with you stupid ideas if you can't disprove mine!1
 
According to Quantum theory infinity does not consist of absolute nothing but, it does have a minimum energy level. As energy has force and force requires a force carrier, it is not difficult to propose an alternative to the BB that is both practical and believable. I use to have one posted on the web and intend to replace soon.
It is worth remembering that the ancient Greeks who gave us the atom also thought that infinity was a place of storms and the universe was created out of one of these storm.
A spiral of force carrier with a wave (weather front) across it looks remarkably like a hurricane weather chart. Now think about the possible velocities and activities of such a set up and the ancient begin to look quite modern.
 
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I wasn't trying to disprove anything. Merely typing the simple version in coherent English.
 
O.K. sorry.I'm just saying that logically atoms have to have a force acting on them to create pressure between them as they get hotter,so they expand,and the force keeps them apart.so the negative field of the shells seems the most obvious choice.the greater the field the more they repel against each other,so heat energy is converted into negative electromagnetic charge,to increase the distance between the molecules,and could account for the natural distribution of molecules in the air,based of there overall negative charge as they interact with one another,which accounts for air pressure.does'nt mean its right but it sounds good.
 

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