Good 68 pin lcc socket with hole for mounting

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The discussion revolves around finding a suitable 68 pin LCC socket that includes a hole for mounting a sample, specifically for use on a coldplate in a dewar. Participants explore various socket options, modifications, and considerations for maintaining thermal contact at low temperatures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the availability of a 68 pin LCC socket with a central hole for mounting a sample on a coldplate.
  • Another suggests cutting a hole in a standard plastic PLCC socket, noting that they have not seen any pre-made options with a cutout.
  • A different approach is proposed, involving the use of an open-top socket that can be inverted onto the coldplate, although this may not work for chips requiring thermal contact with a thermal pad.
  • Participants share tips for ensuring good contact between the socket pins and the chip, including bending the pins inward and being cautious about hole sizes to avoid contact with pins during cooling.
  • One participant describes their experience with ceramic chip carriers and the challenges faced when modifying LCC sockets, including potential loss of contact due to reduced stiffness.
  • Concerns are raised about the magnetic properties of socket materials, particularly for sensitive devices, due to ferromagnetic components in most sockets.
  • A participant mentions their operating temperature of around 70K and seeks feedback on specific socket options they are considering, including links to various products.
  • Another participant shares their experience using a simple gold-plated socket at 77K and notes the challenges of soldering surface mount sockets.

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Participants express a range of opinions on the best approach to achieve the desired socket configuration, with no consensus on a single solution. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, reflecting the complexity of the problem.

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Participants highlight various limitations, such as the potential for loss of contact when modifying sockets, the need for careful consideration of thermal and magnetic properties, and the challenges associated with soldering different types of sockets.

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Where can i find a 68 pin lcc socket with a hole for mounting a sample. I need to be able to place the sample on a coldplate in a dewar which so that it is in contact with the plate and still contacts the pins on the socket.

The attached file shows a rough ProE model of the coldplate. As you can see the raised section is where the sample will be placed, so where can I find a 68 pin lcc socket that has such a hole in the center. All the ones I have found have no square holes in the center.

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You just cut the hole in the centre out of any plastic PLCC socket.
I haven't seen any that come with a cut out.
 
thanks, i figured i would probably have to do that but I just wanted to double check
 
One option would be to use a socket that has an open top, and after the chip is in the socket, invert the socket onto your coldplate. A socket like this:

http://www.locknest.com/newsite/products/lcc/index.htm

If you're trying to hit the thermal pad on the underside of some chips, then this method would not work. But if you're just trying to get wide thermal contact with the plastic of the IC on either side, then you can hit the top with the right socket.
 
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Usually for CCDs / imaging arrays in PLCC sockets, just cut a hole for the cold finger.
Another tip, bend the pins on the plcc inward slightly with a small screwdriver (or a pin) before inserting the chip - it helps to ensure that they keep good contact while the device cools, it's sometimes a bit unpredictable how the plastic behaves at very low temps.
And be careful to make the hole sized so that the coldfinger can't touch any of the pins/tracks if the socket moves sideways while it is cooling/contracting.
 
This is -believe it or not- actually a well known problem and there doesn't seem to be a good solution. I occasionally use ceramic chip carriers that fit in LCC sockets (the sample is wire bonded to the chip carriers) and have used them at temperatures from 270mK to 100K (below 270mK there is no point, you can't use more than a few wires anyway).

The socket you linked to should work. However, you might runt into problems if you start making holes in LCC sockets since the chips do not fit quite as well anymore (since the socket is less "stiff") meaning you might loose contact when the samples is cooled down.
A few years ago I worked on a 300 mK system where we tried various solutions (including drilling holes); eventually we gave up and simply made our own socket which was made using a "frame" of tufnol and the contacts were beryllium-copper pogo pins that pressed against the back of the chip carrier; it was a pain to solder but once made it was very reliable.

What temperature are you working at?

Also, I don't know if your samples are sensitive to magnetic field, but if they are you need to be careful; the metal parts in most sockets are have a nickel layer underneath the gold (sticking layer) meaning they are actually slightly ferromagnetic. This is not a problem for most people but can cause real problems is you are measuring sensitive devices (e.g. SQUIDs) .
 
Thanks for the advice. The temperature is around 70K and there will be no magnetic field. I was thinking of using one of the following sockets? Do you think they would work well or do you know of another that is better?

http://www.kvconnection.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=06-110-F4
http://www.cippsites.com/Merchant4/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=8f4d57cfd3a75435c1c59692acdec94d&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=68PLCCSKT&Store_Code=melabs - A little pricey, but it has a hole and looks sturdy
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PLCC-68W/68-PIN-PLCC-SOCKET-THROUGH-HOLE-STYLE/-/1.html
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PLCC-68/68-PIN-PLCC-SOCKET-SURFACE-MOUNT/-/1.html
 
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We just used a simple gold plated one from our regular parts catalogue (farnell) at 77K.
ps. One of the ones you list is surface mount - it's tricky to solder surface mount with multiple rows of holes underneath without a reflow oven.
 

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