Number of pins? & Point of contact?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and functionality of pins used for molding free form surfaces, specifically focusing on the shape of the pins and their points of contact during rotation. Participants explore the implications of different pin shapes and their arrangement on a plate, as well as the mechanics of how the aluminum sheet will conform to the pin profiles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is designing pins in various shapes (circular, square, triangular) and questions which shape will provide the highest and equal point of contact when molding a free form surface.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the term "mould" and whether it refers to injection molding or support for flat surfaces.
  • A participant mentions the need for the point of contact to remain consistent when the pin is rotated at 30 degrees compared to 90 degrees.
  • There is a reference to a product from Adapa, which does not use pins but relies on actuators for molding in concrete and plastic.
  • One participant recalls a concept involving hexagonal pins covered by rubber and held down by vacuum, aimed at automatically adjusting to a defined surface.
  • A question is raised about the method for getting the aluminum sheet to conform to the contours of the pin set.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the shapes of pins and their effectiveness, but there is no consensus on which shape is optimal or how the aluminum sheet will conform to the pins. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing ideas presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific assumptions regarding the mechanics of molding or the properties of the materials involved, leaving some aspects of the discussion open to interpretation.

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Hello.. I am confused in two questions.
First one is i am designing 1 pin shaped which can mould the free form surface. i am confused in different type of shapes pin like circle, square, triangle..etc.. My question is if i am moulding a free form surface by these shape of pins which shape will highest & equal type of point of contact. & when i revolve the pin at 30 degree the point of contact will be the same as 90 degree?
Second question is there is one plate of 600*600 mm where i will be putting my pins with some distance.. So how much distance should i put the pins that i can revolve the pins at 30 degree & put as much as less pins?
 
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Welcome to the PF, Yogi. :smile:

Can you attach a sketch or picture of what you are trying to do? So far your questions are not clear to me. When you say "mould", do you mean like injection molding of shapes? Are you asking about how to release different shapes from a mold?

Or are you asking about attaching pins to various shapes to provide support when sitting on flat surfaces maybe?
 
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I am designing like this. you can see the pins are moulding a free form surface. In this example you can see there is circular Pin tip. The PIN TIP is also rotating with 30 degree of rotation. My question is which type of PIN TIP i should use for best point of contact like any circular type pins, any square type pins or any triangular type pins etc..The point of contact should be the same in 30 degree or 90 degree??
 
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Interesting! I hadn't seen those before. What kind of tips do the Adapa folks use?

https://adapa.dk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Adapa-Product-Brochure.pdf

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Adapa is not using any pins because its moulding in concrete & plastic in liquid form, so its just doing with help of actuators only. but in my case I am using steel pins to mould aluminium sheet.
 
Decades ago, I looked at the possibility of moulds made from a bed of close packed hexagonal pins, covered by a sheet of rubber, all held down by a vacuum. The aim was to select, place and adjust the pins automatically from a numerical definition of the surface.
 
How do you plan to get the aluminum sheet to conform to the pin set's profile contours?
 

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