Good book to learn about set-theoretic infinity?

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The discussion centers around recommendations for textbooks on set-theoretic concepts, particularly focusing on cardinal and ordinal arithmetic. Participants share their thoughts on suitable materials for self-study, especially for someone with a background in mathematics looking to deepen their understanding of infinity in set theory.

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  • One participant seeks a textbook specifically addressing cardinal and ordinal arithmetic suitable for self-study at an introductory graduate level.
  • Another participant recommends Hrbacek and Jech as a comprehensive resource, noting it covers a wide range of topics beyond just cardinals and ordinals.
  • A different participant expresses criticism of Enderton's book, highlighting issues with terminology and clarity, questioning the precision of its definitions and axioms.
  • Some participants agree on the clarity and accuracy of Hrbacek and Jech, suggesting it is a strong choice for the original poster's needs.
  • One participant mentions using Hrbacek and Jech alongside online lecture notes for their self-study.

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There is general agreement on the recommendation of Hrbacek and Jech as a suitable textbook. However, there is disagreement regarding the effectiveness and clarity of Enderton's book, with some participants expressing significant reservations about its approach and terminology.

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Participants express varying levels of comfort with the terminology used in different textbooks, indicating that definitions and clarity may depend on the author's perspective. There are also unresolved concerns about the implications of the axioms in set theory as discussed by participants.

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Hello,
I am looking for a good textbook covering cardinal and ordinal arithmetic suitable for self study. I'm a recently graduated undergrad (in mathematics) so I could probably handle up to intro graduate level material. I know most good set theory books might have a few chapters about these topics, but I'd especially be interested in a book that sets out to teach the reader specifically about the levels of infinity that come from studying the cardinality of sets. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I think the best book on the subject is Hrbacek and Jech: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8020280576/h5E34A50C/ It should cover exactly what you want. Of course it has many topics which are not about cardinals and ordinals, but that's the nature of a book on set theory. A good follow up book should be Jech's set theory book, but don't attempt to read it right now, it's too dense and unmotivated if you're new to set theory: https://www.amazon.com/dp/3642078990/?tag=pfamazon01-20

A good contender with Hrbacek and Jech is Enderton: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0122384407/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I don't know of a book which focuses specifically on ordinals and cardinals though.
 
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A good contender with Hrbacek and Jech is Enderton: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0122384407/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Hmm, some reasons why I dislike Enderton's set theory book:

1. He uses "we" and "the" to say things that are not canonical. For example, he calls "the abstraction method" what surely everyone else calls a set comprehension, and he calls an "entrance requirement" what anyone else calls a predicate. He even calls naive set theory "baby set theory" initially.

2. He says that the axiom system "leaves the primitive notion of set undefined" but how can that be true? If it was undefined, a set could be something with duplicate elements. But we know it can't have. So the axioms have a defining role. He even says it: "the axioms can be thought of as divulging partial information regarding the meaning of the primitive notions." Can they be thought of that way or do they, which is it? He seems to be on the side that they don't, they leave it undefined.

I ám lenient with foreign authors who write in English but this guy is British and he should know better. He's too imprecise for me.

In practice, avoidance of disaster will not really (?) be an oppressive or onerous task. We will merely (?) avoid ambiguity and avoid sweepingly vast (?) sets. A prudent person would not want to do otherwise.
 
To answer the question, I completely agree on Hrbacek and Jech, supremely clear and accurate, surely it can't be beat.
 
Thanks everyone for the advice!
I have indeed begun using Hrbacek and Jech for my self study supplemented by some online lecture notes I found here: http://kaharris.org/teaching/582/index.html.
Here's to a great summer of set theory! =)
 

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