Good resources for introductory solid state physics and QM

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The discussion revolves around finding suitable resources for studying introductory solid state physics and quantum mechanics, particularly for a freshman electronics and communication engineering student. Participants share recommendations for textbooks, online lectures, and necessary mathematical foundations to grasp these subjects effectively.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks introductory texts and online resources for quantum mechanics and solid state physics, expressing a preference for materials that are concise and self-contained.
  • Another participant suggests the Kronig-Penney model as a useful concept for understanding band structure in solid state physics, referencing specific resources including an introductory course on quantum mechanics and a document on the Kronig-Penney model.
  • A participant recommends the book by Ashcroft and Mermin as a favorite for solid-state theory.
  • One participant mentions starting to read "Fundamental QM for Engineers" by Leon van, finding it accessible, and plans to read Griffith's text later despite finding it challenging.
  • Another participant highlights "Elementary Solid State Physics with Applications" by Omar as an excellent resource, contrasting it with the Ibach-Luth book, which they found confusing.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of the recommended textbooks, with one participant expressing dissatisfaction with their professor's choice of materials.

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Participants express a variety of opinions on the best resources for studying solid state physics and quantum mechanics, with no consensus on a single preferred text or approach. Some participants find certain books easier to follow than others, indicating differing experiences and preferences.

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Participants mention varying levels of familiarity with the subjects, which may influence their recommendations. There is also a noted lack of consensus on the effectiveness of certain textbooks and the expectations set by professors.

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Students beginning their studies in solid state physics and quantum mechanics, particularly those seeking accessible resources and guidance on foundational concepts.

ZAN Nabil
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Hello,I'm new here and this is my first post.
I am a freshman electronics and communication engineering student.I didn't study any quantum mechanics or solid state physics before(not in high school).
But for my first year course i need to study solid state physics.The books we are suggested to follow are Electronic Devices & Circuits(Millman),Solid state electronics devices(Streetman).But I don't understand most of the theories.And our professor somehow expect us to just get the concepts without much understanding(at least other students think that).
So,I want to know what should i study before attempting solid state physics and solid state electronics.
I want to know some introductory texts / online lectures that will make me get the basics of quantum mechanics.
And what kind of mathematical knowledge should i have to study introductory QM(I know single variable calculus)?
Then after doing the necessary maths and QM what introductory texts/lectures/books should i follow to get the basics of solid state physics (theories) ?
(Note:I am pretty bad at following books which are more than 400 or 500 pages).as I just want to get the basics I'm expecting some books that assumes i have no previous knowledge on the subject and self contained.If there are good online tutorials or courses it would be better,if books it should be less than 500 pages.
 
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After understanding the Schroedinger equation and the particle in a well and the hydrogen atom, the Kronig-Penney model is probably the most useful, since one can get an intuition for why band structure arises.

This is a pretty good introduction to quantum mechanics (except for the last chapter on philosophy). It gets to the Kronig-Penney model in Chapter 12.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.4184
An Introductory Course on Quantum Mechanics
Bram Gaasbeek

https://kdf.mff.cuni.cz/vyuka/kondenzovany_stav/materialy_2012/KronigPenney.pdf
The Kronig-Penney Model
Donald MacQuarrie
 
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My favorite for solid-state theory is still the good old book by Ashcroft and Mermin.
 
Thanks for the suggestions .I have started to read Fundamental QM for engineers (Leon van).I find this one easy to follow.Once i get the basics I'll try to read Griffith .(I already have it,but i find it a little hard).Thanks @atyy I already started reading it too.And @vanhees71 I have this one too.I am going to start reading it soon.
 
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ZAN Nabil said:
Thanks for the suggestions .I have started to read Fundamental QM for engineers (Leon van).I find this one easy to follow.

That looks good. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is a handy summary of the formal structure of quantum mechanics, which you can find in http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.4184 (section 4.3.2 Recap: the postulates of quantum mechanics). The formal structure is like Newton's 3 laws for classical mechanics mechanics in the sense that it doesn't provide laws for specific systems, but the laws for say friction and gravity fit into the formal structure. You don't need it now, but it's good to at least glance at it, say after chapter 7 of Dommelen's notes.
 
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elementary solid state physics with applications by Omar is fantastic. Saddly i discovered it after i passed the course :(
My professor used the Ibach-Luth book and was pretty confusing at times. Omar has the same basically layout only he explains the physics behind the mathematics. There are also many derivations and approximations that are omitted from the other book. I didn't study very thoroughly Kittel but it gave me the impression that there are many things left to be wondered. After the semester finals i went to my professor's office and complained about his choice of book. He had nothing to say...

Maybe it was because i was already familiar with the subject that i liked it so much. In any case i can't stress how good the book is
 
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