Deriving the Gravitational Jerk Equation and Solving for Time and Position

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In summary, the conversation discusses a function for expressing position in terms of time, given only acceleration due to gravity. The Gravitational Jerk Equation and a derived equation are mentioned, but there is confusion about solving for time and position. The individual also mentions their limited math ability and shares their derivation of the equation.
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Is anyone aware of a function expressesing position (separation) in terms of time, s=f(x), given only acceleration due to the force of gravity.

I am aware of the Gravitational Jerk Equation

J= [tex]\frac{2Gm}{s^{3}}[/tex] [tex]\frac{ds}{dt}[/tex]

where

m=mass of attracting object
G = gravitational constant

But I can't resolve this for t.

Although I have derived an equation giving dt = f(s) as

t = - [tex]\sqrt{\frac{2}{Gm}}[/tex] * s *[tex]\sqrt{s_{0}-s}[/tex]

given v(o) = 0 (start at rest)

where

s = instantaneous separation
s(o) = orignal separation

which for a given mass of attractor m simplifies to

t = - K * s *[tex]\sqrt{s_{0}-s}[/tex]

I don't know how to solve this for s. Any thoughts?
 
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you don't know how to take the square of both sides? :confused:

although i don't understand how you derived that equation
 
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I got some help on the Math forum so I think I am ok but I was not aware of the resolvant quadratic necessary to solve the cubic of s that results from squaring both sides. I should have mentioned my limited math ability in the first place.

I'll show my derivation of t = f(s) when I have some more time, welcoming all criticism.
 
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here is what I have

s = s(o) - (at^2)/2 where v(0) = 0 and movement is in the negative direction with respect to scalar s(o).

2*[tex](s_{0}-s)[/tex] = - at[tex]^{2}[/tex]

or

2*[tex](s_{0}-s)[/tex] = at[tex]^{2}[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{2*(s_{0}-s)}[/tex] = t * [tex]\sqrt{a}[/tex]

t = [tex]\sqrt{2*(s_{0}-s)/a}[/tex]

but a = - Gm/(s^2), so

t = - [tex]\sqrt{\frac{2}{Gm}}[/tex] * s *[tex]\sqrt{s_{0}-s}[/tex]

please criticize.
 
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1. What is a "Gravitational Jerk"?

A Gravitational Jerk is a sudden change or acceleration in the gravitational force acting on an object due to a nearby massive object or change in the gravitational field.

2. How does a Gravitational Jerk occur?

A Gravitational Jerk occurs when there is a sudden change in the distribution of mass in a gravitational system, leading to a change in the gravitational force acting on an object.

3. What are the effects of a Gravitational Jerk?

The effects of a Gravitational Jerk can vary depending on the intensity and direction of the change in gravitational force. It can cause disruptions in orbits and trajectories of objects, leading to collisions or changes in speed and direction.

4. Can a Gravitational Jerk be predicted?

It is difficult to predict when a Gravitational Jerk may occur, as it is dependent on the actions of nearby massive objects and changes in the gravitational field. However, scientists can study and model gravitational systems to better understand and potentially predict these events.

5. Are there any real-life examples of Gravitational Jerks?

Yes, one well-known example is the Gravitational Jerk that occurred in our solar system when Jupiter and Saturn aligned in 2020. This caused a change in the gravitational force acting on objects in the solar system, leading to disruptions in orbits and trajectories.

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