Graph the Transformation of f(x) to g(x)

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The discussion revolves around transforming the piecewise function f(x) into g(x) using the expression g(x) = 3f(1/2(x+2)) - 2. Participants express confusion about how to graph g(x) from f(x) and whether to perform algebraic transformations or graphical ones. Key points include clarifying that f(x) is indeed a function and understanding how to evaluate f at transformed inputs. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing the linear nature of the transformation and suggests that graphical techniques may be more efficient than algebraic calculations for obtaining g(x). Ultimately, the goal is to accurately represent the transformations of f(x) to derive g(x).
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Homework Statement



f(x)= -x-1,-4\leq x \leq-1
...= x+1, -1\leq x \leq0
...= -x+1, 0\leq x \leq4

obtain the graph of g(x)=3f(1/2(x+2))-2 from the graph of f(x)


The Attempt at a Solution



i am not sure how to obtain the graph.

for example, should i plug in (1/2(x+2)) into -x-1, and have something like, -3(1/2(x+2))-2-1.
 
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First, of all you can't graph f itself- it is not a function! In particular, from the first line, f(-1)= -1-1= -2 while, from the second line, f(-1)= -1+ 1= 0. One of those should be "&lt;" rather than "\le". I will assume one of each of those is "<" but you will have to determine exactly which point goes in which interval.

Also, do you mean (1/2)(x+2) or 1/(2(x+2))? I will assume the former.

f(x) is "piecewise linear" and the argument of f, (1/2)(x+2) is linear so you can just determine for what values of x, in (1/2)(x+2) give a value in each of the intervals used in defining f(x).

If (1/2)(x+ 2)= -4, then x+ 2= -8 so x= -10. If (1/2)(x+ 2)= -1, then x+ 2= -2 so x= -4. Since everything is linear here, g(-10)= 3f(-4)-2= 3(-5)- 2= -17 while g(-4)= 3f(-1)- 2= 3(-2)- 2= -8. The first part of the graph of g(x) is a straight line from (-10, -17) to (-4, -8).

As before, x= -4 gives (1/2)(x+ 2)= -1 and, here, f(-1)= 0. so g(-4)= 3(0)- 2= -2. If (1/2)(x+ 2)= 0, then x+ 2= 0 so x= -2. g(-2)= 3f(0)- 2= 1. The next part of the graph of g is the straight line from (-4, -2) to (-2, 1).

As before, x= -2 gives (1/2)(x+ 2)= 0 and, here, g(-2)= 3f(0)- 2= 3(1)- 2= 1 also. (1/2)(x+ 2)= 4 gives x+ 2= 8 so x= 6. g(6)= 3f(4)- 2= 3(-3)-2= -11. The final part of the graph of g is the straight line from (-2, 1) to (6, -11).
 
HallsofIvy said:
First, of all you can't graph f itself- it is not a function! In particular, from the first line, f(-1)= -1-1= -2 while, from the second line, f(-1)= -1+ 1= 0.

its -x-1, so -(-1)-1=0 and x+1, -1+1=0

it is a function.

what i don't understand is how i am to obtain the graph from f(x). i get the correct f(x). i just don't know if i am to transform it or do some other bs thing to it.

and yes it is (1/2)(x+2).

what does 3f((1/2)(x+2)) mean? i don't understand this.

your explanation is confusing me somewhat."the argument of f, (1/2)(x+2) is linear so you can just determine for what values of x, in (1/2)(x+2) give a value in each of the intervals used in defining f(x)." i don't understand this.
 
projection said:
what does 3f((1/2)(x+2)) mean? i don't understand this.

If you have a function f(y) = y + 1 then the meaning of f \left( \frac{1}{2} (x+2) \right) is f(y) when y = \frac{1}{2} (x+2) and thus

f( y = \frac{1}{2} (x+2) ) = \frac{1}{2} (x+2) + 1
 
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projection said:
its -x-1, so -(-1)-1=0 and x+1, -1+1=0

it is a function.
Dang, it's my eyes again!

what i don't understand is how i am to obtain the graph from f(x). i get the correct f(x). i just don't know if i am to transform it or do some other bs thing to it.

and yes it is (1/2)(x+2).

what does 3f((1/2)(x+2)) mean? i don't understand this.

your explanation is confusing me somewhat."the argument of f, (1/2)(x+2) is linear so you can just determine for what values of x, in (1/2)(x+2) give a value in each of the intervals used in defining f(x)." i don't understand this.
What part do you not understand? There are quite a number of things said there. Do you understand that (1/2)(x+2) is linear? The graph of a linear function, between x= a and x= b is just the straight line between (a,f(a)) and (b, f(b)). You can determine that just by calculating the two end points.
If f(y) is given between a and b, and y= some function of x, then you have to figure out what values of x correspond to y= a and y= b.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Dang, it's my eyes again!


What part do you not understand? There are quite a number of things said there. Do you understand that (1/2)(x+2) is linear? The graph of a linear function, between x= a and x= b is just the straight line between (a,f(a)) and (b, f(b)). You can determine that just by calculating the two end points.
If f(y) is given between a and b, and y= some function of x, then you have to figure out what values of x correspond to y= a and y= b.

i understand that the (1/2)(x+2) is linear as x is to the power of 1.

the bolded part is what is confusing me.
 
as tried to understand your explanation. i think i get some clearness.

g(x)=3f(1/2(x+2))-2 i think this means that put a value in for x. say x= -4. then that makes it f(-1). so then i look at my orignal graph. and see what value for f(-1) is there.
so since its 0. if i multiply it by 3 nothing happens and then i just move it down by 2 and it becomes -2.

by the y=a and y=b, i think that means from -4 to 4 as the graph of f(x) exists only in that interval and so must g(x).

am i correct in this extraction??
 
You can carry out the transformations of f(x) into g(x) algebraically with some effort (although it's giving me a bit of a headache just to read this problem).

I suspect what the person posing this problem may want you to do is make the transformations "graphically". Have you had all that stuff about what happens to the graph of a function f(x) when it becomes f(x+2), when it becomes f( [1/2]·(x+2) ) , etc.? (All that horizontal and vertical "shifts" and "stretches" and "squashes" jazz?) It may be all that they're looking for is to have you draw the picture of f(x), perform the graphical transformations in the appropriate sequence, and obtain g(x) at the end of that.

If you've had the stuff I'm talking about, it's much less work than calculating what happens to each branch of the definition analytically and then having to plot that. (In fact, I think the problem was deliberately couched this way to drive you to use the graphical technique...)
 
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