Gravity, heat, flooding, and centrifugal force on a tidal-locked planet

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of a tidal-locked planet, particularly focusing on the effects of increased rotation on gravity and the implications of the Coriolis effect on climate and flooding. Participants explore theoretical scenarios related to centrifugal force, gravity, and heat transfer in the context of a fictional narrative.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether increasing the planet's rotation would lead to stronger gravity due to increased centrifugal force, while another states that Earth's rotation decreases effective gravity.
  • It is noted that centrifugal force acts outward from the axis of rotation and is stronger away from the poles, leading to a reduction in effective gravity at most locations on the planet.
  • Another participant clarifies that the Coriolis effect does not directly cause heat transfer from the equator to the poles, which occurs through convection, while the Coriolis effect alters the circulation pattern.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between gravitational forces acting on the planet versus those acting on objects located on the planet, with some suggesting that the net gravitational force remains largely unchanged.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between centrifugal force and gravity, as well as the role of the Coriolis effect in heat transfer. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached consensus on the effects of increased rotation on gravity or the mechanisms of heat transfer and flooding. The discussion includes assumptions about the planet's characteristics and the nature of gravitational forces.

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Hi. I'm a science fiction author whose first novel Hemispheres, published through RockHill Publishing, explored a tidal-locked planet (Gliese 581g) where a group of activists increased its rotation to bring daylight cycles to both hemispheres. Now I'm writing the sequel, and there's ecological terrorist acts going on (I can explain why but it's not relevant to the physics questions).

Question 1) One group is trying to increase the planet's rotation even faster. Since centrifugal force would be stronger, would this indirectly increase the effects of gravity on the planet (gravity growing stronger as the planet spins faster)?

Question 2) One group of ecological terrorists are attempting to speed the melting of the icecaps. Since the planet is no longer tidal locked, the Coriolis effect exists now and that, in addition to daylight cycles, creates heat and heat transfer that melts the icecaps causing flooding. How would a nefarious group increase the speed of this flooding taking place?

Thanks!

Mark
 
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Mark Everglade said:
Question 1) One group is trying to increase the planet's rotation even faster. Since centrifugal force would be stronger, would this indirectly increase the effects of gravity on the planet (gravity growing stronger as the planet spins faster)?
The Earth's rotation decreases the effective gravity.
 
To add to what @PeroK posted. the centrifugal effect acts outward from the axis of rotation. And gets stronger as you move away from the axis. Thus this effective weakening is zero at the poles, and increases as you move towards the equator. But it is a small effect for something the size of the Earth rotating once every 24 hrs.

As far as Coriolis effect goes. The transfer of heat from equator to poles does not rely on it. This is done by simple convection. Air is heated at the equator, rises and moves towards the poles were it cools, sinks and then moves back towards the equator. You get air circulation of warm air moving towards the Poles in the upper atmosphere and cold air moving away from the Poles at ground level. What the Coriolis effect does is change the pattern of this circulation so that it is no longer along a straight North-South line.
 
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Mark Everglade said:
Since centrifugal force would be stronger, would this indirectly increase the effects of gravity on the planet (gravity growing stronger as the planet spins faster)?

That depends on what you mean with "the effects of gravity on the planet". Do you mean gravitational forces of the star acting on the planet or gravitational forces of the planet acting on something else that is located on the planet? For the second case it has already been mentioned that the gravity on the surface of the planet will be reduced at most places. It can (but don't need to) be increased on the poles (depending on the size of the core). For the first case you need to distinguish between the gravitational net force (which will be almosty unchanged) and the tidal forces (which will be increased around the aequator).
 
Janus said:
To add to what @PeroK posted. the centrifugal effect acts outward from the axis of rotation. And gets stronger as you move away from the axis. Thus this effective weakening is zero at the poles, and increases as you move towards the equator. But it is a small effect for something the size of the Earth rotating once every 24 hrs.

As far as Coriolis effect goes. The transfer of heat from equator to poles does not rely on it. This is done by simple convection. Air is heated at the equator, rises and moves towards the poles were it cools, sinks and then moves back towards the equator. You get air circulation of warm air moving towards the Poles in the upper atmosphere and cold air moving away from the Poles at ground level. What the Coriolis effect does is change the pattern of this circulation so that it is no longer along a straight North-South line.
 
That makes sense, thanks a lot!
 

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