Group Action of C3v on 2x2 Complex Matrices

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The discussion revolves around the group action of the group \(C_{3v}\) on \(2 \times 2\) complex matrices. The original poster presents a representation \(D\) of the group and explores its decomposition into irreducible components, particularly focusing on the characters of the representation and their implications for understanding the structure of \(D\).

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of characters for the representation \(D\) and the implications of these characters for identifying irreducible components. Questions arise regarding the specific form of the representation and how to derive it from the group action. There is also exploration of the relationship between the representation and the physical context it may apply to.

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Some participants have provided insights into the use of orthogonality relations to find occurrences of irreducible representations within the reducible representation \(D\). Others emphasize the need to define the representation in relation to the specific physical problem, indicating a productive exploration of the topic without reaching a consensus on the exact form of \(D\).

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There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, particularly in defining the representation \(D\) and its relation to the underlying vector space. Participants note that the matrices can be viewed as operators in a two-component complex vector space, which adds to the discussion's depth.

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Group action on ##2##x##2## complex matrices of group ##C_{3v}## for all matrices from ##C^{22}##, for all ##g## from ##C_{3v}## is given by:

##D(g)A=E(g)AE(g^{-1}), A=\begin{bmatrix}
a & b \\
c & d \\
\end{bmatrix}##,

Where ##E## is ##2D## irrep of ##C_{3v}##. I think that representation of rep ##D## is two dimensional, because act on ##2##x##2## matrix ##A##.

when I calculate characters

##\chi_D(g)## by
##tr(D(g)A)=\sum_{i,j=1,1}^{2,2} D(g)^{\dagger}_{ij}(g)A_{ij}=##
##=aD^{*}_{11}(g)+bD^{*}_{21}(g)+cD^{*}_{12}(g)+dD^{*}_{22}(g)##.
I always get for all ##g, D^{*}_{11}(g)=D^{*}_{11}(g)=1## and for
##D^{*}_{21}(g)=D^{*}_{12}(g)=0##, and ##\chi_D(g)=2## for all ##g##. And ##D=A\oplus A##
Main question is how decompose representation ##D## in irreducible components of group ##C_{3v}##
 
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Assuming irreducible representations of the group are known, you find irreducible characters of those representations. Then you take the character of your chosen representation and use the orthogonality relations between the characters to find the number of occurences of the chosen irreducible representation in your reducible one.

For example, one of the irreducible representations of ##C_{3v}## is ##A_0##, which is equal to ##1## for all elements of the group. We want to find whether this representation is occurring in our reducible one, and how many times. It's irreducible character for each element is equal to ##1##. So we use the relation:

$$\alpha_{A_0} = \frac{1}{\vert G\vert} \sum_g \chi^{A_0}(g)\chi^{D}(g) = \frac{1}{6} \cdot12 = 2$$
Here I assumed that all characters of ##D## are equal to ##2## like you said. Therefore, we see that the IR ##A_0## occurs twice, so ##D## is decomposed into two of those irreducible representations(which in this case means that ##D## is identity transformation on that space).

In general, you can create character tables for irreducible characters for all irreducible representations of a group which are in general known, and then calculate the characters of your given representation, and in the end use the relations above(the orthogonality relations) to find numbers of occurences of each irreducible representation.

If you want to find the basis in which the transformation assumes this block-diagonal form, the so called symmetry-adapted basis, you need to use the group projecton operator technique, which is probably found in books on group representation theory.
 
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Problem is biger. How we find representation ##D## ?

I assumed that ##D##is ##2##x##2## matrices. ##D(C_3)A=E(C_3)AE(C_3^{-1})=\begin{bmatrix}
D_{11} & D_{12}\\
D_{21} & D_{12}\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}
a & b\\
c & d\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}
aD_{11} + cD_{12}&bD_{11} + dD_{12}\\
aD_{21} + cD_{22} & bD_{21} + dD_{22}\end{bmatrix}
= \begin{bmatrix}
a&b\epsilon^*\\
c\epsilon^* & d\end{bmatrix}. ##

Implies that ##D_{22}=2## and ##D_{22}=\epsilon##

##\epsilon=e^{\frac{i2\pi}{3}}##
 
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The dimension of your representation will be the dimension of vector space in which it is acting. So here, from what I see, you want to find the way this representation transforms elements of the space of ##2\times 2## complex matrix space. But those matrices can be treated as operators over a two component complex vector space(say, the spin space of 1/2 spin particles). Then you will have the transformation rules:
$$\psi' = D\psi \qquad A' = DAD^{-1}$$
where ##D=D(g)## of course.
But there are many possible representations of this group, you need to define the representation in order to reduce it and inspect it's properties, there isn't just one particular representation for each possible space. Representation is just a function that maps elements of the group into some linear operators. The only rule here is that this mapping preserves group multiplication law. Otherwise, it can be completely arbitrary. So you can't find general ##D## for your space, you must adapt ##D## to the physical problem you're trying to solve, or you must be given a particular ##D## who's properties are sought for.
 

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