Hannibal Lecter and Roller Pigeons

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The discussion centers around the portrayal of Roller Pigeons in the film Hannibal, specifically a claim made by the character Hannibal Lecter regarding the breeding of deep rollers and the consequences for their offspring. Participants explore the veracity of this claim and the underlying genetics of Roller Pigeons.

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  • One participant questions the truth of Hannibal Lecter's statement about Roller Pigeons, suggesting it may be fictional or exaggerated to highlight his character's intelligence.
  • Another participant proposes that the statement could symbolize the idea that excessive traits can be harmful, reflecting on the nature of polymathy.
  • A different participant presents information about the "ro" gene in Roller Pigeons, explaining its role in controlling rolling behavior and the potential for some pigeons to be unable to control their rolls, leading to injury.
  • Several participants express surprise and amusement at the concept of pigeons rolling, with comments indicating a newfound understanding of the behavior.

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There is no consensus on the truth of the claim made in the film. Some participants suggest it may not be true, while others provide genetic explanations that could support aspects of the claim. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the portrayal.

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Participants mention the complexity of pigeon breeding and behavior, indicating that the discussion may depend on specific definitions and interpretations of the rolling behavior.

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Readers interested in genetics, animal behavior, or the cultural representation of animals in media may find this discussion engaging.

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In the film Hannibal there is a scene where Clarice is listening to a tape of Hannibal Lecter talking to Barney. Hannibal is talking about Roller Pigeons and says something along the lines of.
There are two types of rollers deep rollers and shallow rollers if you breed two deep rollers together their offspring will roll all the way to the ground and kill themselves.
Is this true or was it just made up to demonstrate what a polymath the old psycho was?
 
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Most likely not true but I am not a Roller Pigeon breeder.
I thing it means that too much of a good thing can be detrimental in the end, more is not always better. Hannibal the polymath and also the writer(s).
 
It seems to have a basis in fact:

The answer to the question, "Why do the pigeons roll?" is controversial. One answer to this question could be this: Apparently there is a gene called the "ro" gene that controls the rolling/tumbling behaviour in pigeons. This "ro" gene sets the rolling behaviour to a degree from "none" to "high". Some pigeon breeds do not roll, some just do one backward somersault, some roll, and some do not even fly, they just roll on the ground like a Parlor Roller does.
The Galaţi Rollers have the "ro" gene, and the young birds learn to do the acrobatics by experience. At first they do pirouettes, then when they get stronger and fly around the loft, they ride on their tails (they glide with their wings shaped like the letter "V", leaning on their tails). Gradually, with practice, they lean more and more on their tails when they glide, and at some point they do the somersault. With time and practice, they learn how to roll (more successive somersaults). They must recover from their acrobatics and not hit the ground. There are pigeons that cannot control their rolls and will hit the ground. Such birds are called "bomber" or "kamikaze" and obviously do not have a long life expectancy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaţi_roller
 
Pigeons roll? :smile:
 
Monique said:
Pigeons roll? :smile:

I had never understood that line until now. Not only do pigeons roll in the air, they also roll on the ground. In competition. Go figure.

Need a laugh? Its pigeon bowling.

 
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Monique said:
Pigeons roll? :smile:
But do they rock as well
 

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