Hard integration problem (calc 2)

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The discussion revolves around a calculus problem involving the integration of a function that includes an exponential term and a rational expression. Participants are exploring various methods to approach the integral of the expression (x^3e^x^2) / (x^2 + 1)^2 dx.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different substitution methods, including u-substitution, and express uncertainty about the effectiveness of their approaches. There is a focus on breaking down the integral and considering integration by parts as a potential next step.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking tips. Some guidance has been offered regarding substitution choices and integration techniques, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges with integration techniques and express concerns about their understanding of when certain methods can be applied, indicating a learning process in progress.

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I've been going at this problem for at least 3 hours :cry:

Just need to find the integral for:

INTEGRAL(x^3e^x^2) / (x^2 + 1)^2 dxI've tried all kinds of different methods, filling up at 4 pages in my notebook! I think this is the closest I've gotten :confused:

First I broke up the numerator so that it's: x^2xe^x^2
Attempting to solve with u-substitution

u = x^2 + 1
x^2 = u - 1
du = 2xdx
1/2du = xdx

1/2INTEGRAL((u-1)e^(u-1)) / (u^2) du

And I don't know what to do from here, I don't feel like I'm on the right track. If anyone has a tip it would be much appreciated!
 
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Try letting u = x2; that way you don't have to work with (u - 1)eu - 1 and you get euu.
 
Hmm yeah that probably is the best choice, I tried it earlier but am still hitting a wall

u = x^2
du = 2xdx
1/2du = xdx

1/2INTEGRAL (Ue^U) / (U+1)^2 dU

Can that be integrated? I've always been so bad at knowing when I can do something and when I can't, it kills me on tests.
 
Looks like your only option now is integration by parts, seems like no other kinds of substitutions would help. You only have a few things to try with u, eu, and 1/(u + 1)2, shouldn't be too hard.
 
Thanks! I think I may have gotten it, not 100% sure though, got class soon so i'll find out then. Thanks again
 

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