Programs Have You Gotten a Degree Online? Experiences & Respect

[Greg Bernhardt]

Curious if anyone here has gotten a degree online. Where and what your experience was. They seem to be getting more and more popular. And what about online graduate degrees? Are there any online programs that get respect?

 

[CaptainQuaser]

I am unsure, but I would guess no, at least in physics.

 

[JasonRox]

It all depends on which online school and what program.

I, myself, plan on getting an online degree. It will a Bachelor's of Arts in Psychology.

My friend is doing one in Business and he's loving it.

I could imagine one in Mathematics not being any good though or even Physics. Anything that requires labs are a definite no.

 

[thinkies]

Meh...such degrees are boring. Theres no "social interaction"...And, in some cases, the quality of the programs are horrible...

 

[JasonRox]

Meh...such degrees are boring. Theres no "social interaction"...And, in some cases, the quality of the programs are horrible...

You get social interaction at work and going out.

I would hope no one is doing online courses on a full-time basis.

Plus, you say the quality is horrible, but I've read Psychology textbooks already and have learned more than lots of Psychology students. They know I don't know too, but I haven't even come close to taking as many courses as them.

 

[thinkies]

You get social interaction at work and going out.

I would hope no one is doing online courses on a full-time basis.

Sure you do get social interaction outside and all. Still, I personally find it boring...

 

[thinkies]

Plus, you say the quality is horrible, but I've read Psychology textbooks already and have learned more than lots of Psychology students. They know I don't know too, but I haven't even come close to taking as many courses as them.

I clearly mentioned this in my comment #4:

And, ****in some cases****, the quality of the programs are horrible...

Certain programs can be better then others.

(That was not meant to be offensive.)

 

[JasonRox]

I clearly mentioned this in my comment #4:
And, ****in some cases****, the quality of the programs are horrible...

Certain programs can be better then others.

(That was not meant to be offensive.)

Oh, ok. No, I didn't take it in a offending manner.

I'm getting my degree from a "real" school. It's just that Psychology is an interest and online schools work around your time much better. (I'm going to graduate school.) They give 6 months to complete a 4 month course.

 

[Cyrus]

Warren is taking online classes at stanford.

 

[thinkies]

Well, online courses from reputable universities are good...

 

[thinkies]

Oh, ok. No, I didn't take it in a offending manner.

I'm getting my degree from a "real" school. It's just that Psychology is an interest and online schools work around your time much better. (I'm going to graduate school.) They give 6 months to complete a 4 month course.

Are you aiming a bachelor degree in psychology?

 

[cristo]

Are you aiming a bachelor degree in psychology?

I, myself, plan on getting an online degree. It will a Bachelor's of Arts in Psychology.

You know, you should really start reading a little more, thinkies!

 

[thinkies]

You know, you should really start reading a little more, thinkies!

I tend to read things fast..Hehe, I'll pay attention next time!

 

[Asphodel]

I've gone through "traditional" classes where I never show up, e-mail the completed assignments to the professor, and end up getting in the 3.8-4.0 range. Does that count?

Otherwise, no, and I don't think many people have great respect for online degree programs.

 

[thinkies]

Otherwise, no, and I don't think **many people have great respect for online degree programs**.

Yep. Some of my school teachers consider such degrees to be 'non-official' types...They say its simply a waste of time(weird they think of it as a 'waste'). Still, that does not mean that all online programs are horrible. Some are pretty good.

 

[jhicks]

I think some of these responses have blinders on toward thinking "online degrees" implies University of Phoenix or something. Some good schools have distance learning programs.

 

[Astronuc]

Online courses from an accredited program at a well-established university like Stanford or MIT is quite different than courses/degrees from a place like University of Phoenix.

The accredited programs I've seen have the student show up at the campus at some point.

 

[TVP45]

Curious if anyone here has gotten a degree online. Where and what your experience was. They seem to be getting more and more popular. And what about online graduate degrees? Are there any online programs that get respect?

Greg, may I change your question a bit to include all forms of distance education, not only online but mail, satellite link, video, and the ultimate - no courses but only testing? In fact, many degrees are granted for a combination of these deliveries.

I have an external degree in history and philosophy. I've never used it professionally and can't personally answer the question of acceptance. I do know such degrees are widely accepted by governments (federal and state), by school systems, and as a professional degree for nursing licensure.

Distance degrees typically lack the coherent, sequential curriculum seen in a traditional brick and mortar school and may not adequately prepare the student for graduate work in the sciences or in engineering. I don't know of any respected school which offers a BS in engineering.

On the other hand, since there is not the same core course requirement, master's degrees in science and engineering are available from many well-respected schools and are generally accepted. There is, in fact, a long tradition of the master's in engineering being a non-residency or short-residency degree.

I think the bottom line is that such degrees are better suited to the more mature, self-directed learner who already has some knowledge of, and perhaps experience in, the field. Moreover, the student needs to check acceptance by typical employers or potential graduate schools, and needs to do a little research to see that the prospective school is legitimate.

Many UK degrees have traditionally been external, with the student being required to only sit for the exams.

A good guide for the person considering a distance degree is
Bear's Guide to College Degrees by Mail & Internet by John B. Bear and Mariah P. Bear, Ten Speed Press.

 

[Howers]

I don't know from personal experience, but someone my parents know did one in business/managment. Before doing it, he was flipping burgers. After getting it, he is still flipping burgers. At the same restaraunt too if I'm not mistaken.

 

[stewartcs]

...And what about online graduate degrees? Are there any online programs that get respect?

Greg,

Graduate degrees via Distance Education from an accreditied university are exactly equivalent to sitting in a class room at most schools. The degree won't say "Online" or anything similar.

For example, here are some Graduate Distance Education Degrees from NC State:

http://engineeringonline.ncsu.edu/degreesandcertificates/index.htm

Of course these types of degrees require an enormous amount of initiative and self-discipline to complete.

CS

 

[Cyrus]

Here, some classes were wired to other univ. Basically, they would sit in a classroom with a big projector, and watch our teacher lecture live. They would turn in their homework via email to the professor, and the exams would be (Emailed to their local TA) the day of the exam. So, it was an online course for them.

 

[Cod]

There are a few schools that offer Computer Science and Computer Engineering bachelors degrees fully online; however, I'm unsure how "respectable" the schools are. From what research I did for a few minutes, I found a few that are accredited via DETC. An example of a school that offers a BS in Computer Science is Grantham University.

I know I've taken a lot of interest in earning my degree online because being in the military makes it hard to go to a traditional classroom environment.

 

[JasonRox]

I don't know from personal experience, but someone my parents know did one in business/managment. Before doing it, he was flipping burgers. After getting it, he is still flipping burgers. At the same restaraunt too if I'm not mistaken.

I know this guy who won the Putnam, and graduated top honours at MIT in Engineering. He's smoking crack and licking dirt for crack.

The degree is worthless apparently.

 

[TVP45]

A couple of respectable schools that offer a bachelor's in Computer Science are:
Charter Oak State College
New Jersey Institute of Technology
Skidmore College
Thomas Edison State College
University of Maryland (used to have military education connections)

I believe all these have traditional accreditation, but you should check.

 

[TVP45]

Greg,

Graduate degrees via Distance Education from an accreditied university are exactly equivalent to sitting in a class room at most schools. The degree won't say "Online" or anything similar.

For example, here are some Graduate Distance Education Degrees from NC State:

http://engineeringonline.ncsu.edu/degreesandcertificates/index.htm

Of course these types of degrees require an enormous amount of initiative and self-discipline to complete.

CS

Isn't this just creeping "StateUism" for a Tarheel?

 

[fizziks]

Unless the school is known for offering online degrees, they will be looked down upon. I know some state schools offer distance learning degrees but doesn't discriminate whenever this degree was earned through distance learning or not. No where on your degree or transcript will it say "THIS COURSE/DEGREE WAS COMPLETED ONLINE FROM A DISTANCE PLACE".

It has the same value as any other degree, but it's up to YOU to make it worthwhile and fulfilling. An online course requires more discipline and independent study than a real, in-person course. The only factors you lose is real life social/professor interaction.

 

[stewartcs]

Isn't this just creeping "StateUism" for a Tarheel?

Just keeping it in the state!

CS

 

[JasonRox]

I don't think it matters if it's your second undergraduate degree.

 

[sx70]

I should graduate from a masters program in an applied physics subfield from a respected public university in December 2008.
To sum up
Pros:
-Ability to time shift lectures
-No commute time, no parking hassles
-I save lectures to CD - with good annotation on notes I can bring up lecture where the point I am interested in is discussed - I now have a shelf full this material - great reference with minimal notetaking.
-Degree is respected - no different than on campus degree, school is probably number 1 in this particular field of applied physics.
-Interaction with professors/graders is good - distance students can outnumber the physical students in the class, so most make efforts to make the distance learning work well - prompt email replies, responsive to phone messages, quick grading
-The program does have some lab requirements, but I took care of them by doing some of the experiments after hours at work and then with a three day visit to campus.

Cons:
-Study groups/social interaction MUCH more difficult - since people are taking courses one at time and without a lot of prereq courses you tend to have different people in the distance learning portion of each course you take. Takes someone with real drive to get people to participate. This can have longer term effects than you might think - for instance, this school hosts alumni receptions at the major conferences in this discipline, if I walk in the only people I'll know would be the professors - and they won't recognize me. Many alumni of this school have partnered up to form companies - I'm out of that network completely.
-Unless your employer agrees it can be difficult to do thesis topic related to your work or using company equipment. This generally means going non thesis, requiring 2-3 more classes and probably at least an extra year.
-No assistantships since you can't do the normal teaching/grading or research, but I think all the distance students are employed and are using company tuition reimbursment programs.

 

[TMFKAN64]

I should graduate from a masters program in an applied physics subfield from a respected public university in December 2008.

Beam physics? Because otherwise, I'm very curious where you are studying...

 

[Howers]

I know this guy who won the Putnam, and graduated top honours at MIT in Engineering. He's smoking crack and licking dirt for crack.

The degree is worthless apparently.

Apparently.

 

[RufusDawes]

I don't know from personal experience, but someone my parents know did one in business/managment. Before doing it, he was flipping burgers. After getting it, he is still flipping burgers. At the same restaraunt too if I'm not mistaken.

Because business management is a piece of **** vanilla degree. Had he done something more useful like accounting or eduction I doubt he would still be flipping burgers.

 

[RufusDawes]

what the hell is ' licking dirt'

 

[RufusDawes]

I don't think it matters if it's your second undergraduate degree.

what does that mean ?

 

[stewartcs]

Because business management is a piece of **** vanilla degree.

What does a "piece of **** vanilla degree" mean??

CS

 

[RufusDawes]

What does a "piece of **** vanilla degree" mean??

CS

Get a degree is social sciences or something similar and let me know.

 

[JasonRox]

Because business management is a piece of **** vanilla degree. Had he done something more useful like accounting or eduction I doubt he would still be flipping burgers.

I agree.

It's a garbage degree.

 

[RufusDawes]

No degree is useless they all have some value I did over react. But from a financial perspective certain qualifications are like suicide. There is always a lot of value in learning, however, not always financial value.

A guy who is in a position of flipping burgers and using a degree to get ahead, really needs access to something with financial benefit. Partly because it is clear he does not have the plain personal skills to get a head - he needs a marketable qualification.

The instrinsic value of learing isn't going to do him much good. If you are established in what you do or a independant financially - then there is benefit in getting any sort of degree.

 

[JasonRox]

No degree is useless they all have some value I did over react. But from a financial perspective certain qualifications are like suicide. There is always a lot of value in learning, however, not always financial value.

Not to knock what he did too much, but a guy who is in a position of flipping burgers and using a degree to get ahead, really needs access to something with financial benefit.

The instrinsic value of learing isn't going to do him much good. If you are established in what you do or a independant financially - then there is it is an absolute benefit in getting any sort of degree.

Exactly why I said it's good for a second undergraduate degree.

Seriously, it's a garbage degree. There are many out there that exist. Schools aren't always honest with what they "sell".

You basically said that everything a school hands out has value, but that's false. And there is a reason why you don't see good schools with all those weird programs offered on TV commercials.

 

[stewartcs]

Get a degree is social sciences or something similar and let me know.

Let you know what? That doesn't explain what a "vanilla degree" is.

CS

 

[RufusDawes]

Let you know what? That doesn't explain what a "vanilla degree" is.

CS

vanilla = common and generic.

vanilla degree is a common and generic degree.

What kind of sick bastard orders a vanilla thick shake when there is choclate and strawberry available ?

What kind of sick employer would higher a 'business management' major when there are accounting and engineering graduates.

 

[stewartcs]

vanilla = common and generic.

vanilla degree is a common and generic degree.

What kind of sick bastard orders a vanilla thick shake when there is choclate and strawberry available ?

What kind of sick employer would higher a 'business management' major when there are accounting and engineering graduates.

The beauty in simplicity has eluded you.

Certainly there must be some employers whom have management degrees - perhaps in the top management levels. Which implies they would indeed hire one with said degree.

CS

 

[JasonRox]

The beauty in simplicity has eluded you.

Certainly there must be some employers whom have management degrees - perhaps in the top management levels. Which implies they would indeed hire one with said degree.

CS

As an add on, but not like their only education.

You can get engineering degrees focused on management here, but you have to put in an extra year. You still do everything plus management. Not just management.

 

[stewartcs]

As an add on, but not like their only education.

You can get engineering degrees focused on management here, but you have to put in an extra year. You still do everything plus management. Not just management.

Surely you guy's aren't suggesting that a BS in Business Administration is worthless...are you?

CS

 

[RufusDawes]

The beauty in simplicity has eluded you.

Certainly there must be some employers whom have management degrees - perhaps in the top management levels. Which implies they would indeed hire one with said degree.

CS

You'd need to go to a good school and have very good people skills to make use of such a degree.

The probability is lower that you would be able to get a good job with it.

If you have exceptional people skills the degree becomes less worthless. But if you're that good you probably didn't need the degree in first place.

A person flipping burgers probably isn't the best people person or they'd be waiting tables for a start, pending situations.

If you're 23 years old and a top achieving salesman in a call centre for example, you're looking at moving into management and then go the recruiting/HR path a business management degree is definently invaluable to you.

I might be off base here but my perception of degrees such as engineering and accounting are degrees that give you the opportunity to move ahead where others cannot because you have to work very hard.

Te vanilla type confirm you aren't a total moron, attach a franchise to your name ( the more expensive the better) and leave the rest to your abilities, interpersonal skills and ability to talk yourself into a job and suck ass all the way.

I'd suggest a degree in humanities for a hot chick who wants to work in University administration or other administration. It would be a ridiculous idea for a 19 year old bloke flipping burgers.

For some reason I just included business as a humanity, oh well.

 

[CaptainQuasar]

I'd suggest a degree in humanities for a hot chick who wants to work in University administration or other administration.

Speaking of hot chicks and education, check out the list of people who have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s-Bacon_number" . Especially that girl who authored the paper on Riemannian manifolds - hot both for being a hottie and for having authored a paper on Riemannian manifolds.

And Natalie Portman too, of course.

⚛​

 

[stewartcs]

The probability is lower that you would be able to get a good job with it.

Apparently you have researched the different fields and have quantified the probability of this...or is this just an arbitrary answer?

Again, are you guy's saying that a Business Administration degree is worthless?

CS

 

[JasonRox]

Surely you guy's aren't suggesting that a BS in Business Administration is worthless...are you?

CS

Um... you do realize Bus. Admin. is something completely different than business management.

 

[RufusDawes]

Speaking of hot chicks and education, check out the list of people who have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s-Bacon_number" . Especially that girl who authored the paper on Riemannian manifolds - hot both for being a hottie and for having authored a paper on Riemannian manifolds.

And Natalie Portman too, of course.

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ok you can play the sexist card if you like but I am making valid point.

Have you ever been inside the main administration building of a University ? My dear god, those places are just crawling with hot women.

Apparently you have researched the different fields and have quantified the probability of this...or is this just an arbitrary answer?

Again, are you guy's saying that a Business Administration degree is worthless?

CS

What I am saying is that it depends a lot on the person getting it. If you're like me and aren't a fantastic sales man or you're flipping burgers for a living business admin isn't the best thing to do.

And I think that for more people a Business Administration degree would not get them far.

But I come from Australia employers are a little bit different in the way they look at qualifications. A degree is not at all essential to succeed in business.

I really should have mentioned that earlier as it does make a difference.

 

[stewartcs]

Um... you do realize Bus. Admin. is something completely different than business management.

I've never heard of a Business Management degree, but I've heard of a Business Administration - Management degree. The concentration is in management. I presume you guys are talking about something else.

CS