Heat capacity of gas at zero K

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The discussion centers on the heat capacity \( c_p \) of gases as the temperature approaches absolute zero (0 K). Participants explore theoretical expressions for \( c_p(T) \) for idealized mono- and diatomic gases, as well as the behavior of heat capacity in low-temperature regions, including the implications of quantum effects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks an established expression for \( c_p(T) \) for gases near 0 K and references the behavior of the function in low-temperature regions.
  • Another participant notes that at low temperatures, gases become degenerate and quantum statistics (Bose-Einstein or Fermi-Dirac) influence heat capacity, with bosons condensing in the ground state and fermions exhibiting linear behavior with temperature.
  • A different participant expresses interest in a hypothetical gas that remains in a gaseous state close to 0 K, specifically looking for \( c_p(T) \) for such a gas.
  • One participant argues that no gas remains in a gaseous state at 0 K, as it would solidify or, in the case of helium, remain liquid, highlighting the significant quantum effects observed in helium isotopes.
  • Another participant requests the mathematical form of \( c_p(T) \) for a non-condensing gas, emphasizing the need for an idealized model and referencing a specific source that discusses the behavior of \( c_p(T) \) across various temperature ranges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of gases at temperatures approaching absolute zero, with some asserting that gases cannot remain in that state while others explore hypothetical scenarios. No consensus is reached regarding the existence of a gas that remains gaseous at 0 K or the specific form of \( c_p(T) \).

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of their discussions, particularly regarding the assumptions about idealized gases and the implications of quantum mechanics at low temperatures. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the definitions of gas states and the effects of particle interactions.

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Hello All,

I have been trying to find an established expression cp = cp(T) for a gas asymptotically close to zero K, as well as showing how does the function grow/behave in the low-temperature regions.

This can be an idealized mono/diatomic gas

Do you know a reference I can read about cp(T)?

Thank you
 
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At low enough temperatures (such that the thermal De Broglie wavelength becomes comparable to the inter-particle distance), the gas eventually becomes degenerate, and quantum effects become important. Then, the type of the statistics obeyed by the particles plays a crucial role. Namely, if the particles are bosons, they tend to condense in the ground state, and there is a jump in heat capacity associated with this condensation. If the particles are fermions, then the heat capacity behaves linearly with temperature.

These conclusions are valid for ideal gases. When interaction between the particles is taken into account, these effects change slightly. For bosons, the interaction causes some of the particles to get excited from the ground state. For fermions, if the interaction is attractive, we may have a formation of Cooper pairs that condense to a superfluid state.
 
I am looking for a (hypothetical) gas that remains gas very close to T=0... and for the expression c_p(T) for such a gas. Because this concept still has to be reminiscent of a gas, I imagine a mono- or diatomic gas would fit the bill.

A Fermi gas would be applicable to an electron gas, and Bose-gas would still be comprised by elementary particles that obey Bose statistics. These would not work for me
 
But, in reality, nothing remains a gas at T = 0. It would either solidify in a crystal, or as in the case of helium, remain liquid at atmospheric pressure. For helium, there are two isotopes, 4He, which behaves as a Bose liquid, and 3He, which behaves as a Fermi liquid. The quantum effects I was referring to are quite prominent in this substance and were measured experimentally even before a theory had been put forward to explain them.
 
I actually need the c_p(T) for non-condensing gas. Again, this can be an idealized gas, not a real one; and T may not be precisely zero, but asymptotically close to it.

I need the mathematical form of c_p(T), especially between [0+epsilon, 300K], epsilon --> 0
The only reference I have so far is "Introduction to Statistical Mechanics and Thermodynamics" by Keith Stowe. On page 305 he plots a graph c_p(T) for a hypothetical diatomic gas, which spans from infinity to ~10,000K (vibrational mode) then to about 10K (rotational mode), then the low-temp region (translational mode), going towards the absolute zero when c_p --> 0
 

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