Heat conduction numerical model

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling heat conduction in a radioisotope thermoelectric generator using numerical methods. Participants explore the dimensionality of the model (1D vs. 2D) and the implications of heat transfer between different materials in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with a simple 1D equilibrium model and then validating it against real measurements to determine if a more complex model is necessary.
  • Another participant expresses concern that using 1D models in each direction might lead to an overestimation of power output to the thermopiles if heat loss in the insulator is ignored.
  • A question is raised about how to couple the 1D models to ensure power equilibrium is maintained across the system.
  • Reference to specific chapters in a textbook is provided, suggesting the use of electrical analogy and lumped models for better understanding.
  • A participant contemplates whether to set an energy balance at the boundaries of different materials or to apply a specific heat conduction scheme that varies thermal conductivity based on the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the dimensionality of the model or the approach to handling heat transfer at material boundaries. Multiple competing views remain regarding the necessity of 2D modeling versus 1D modeling and the treatment of thermal conductivity.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the accuracy and detail required for the model, indicating that the choice of dimensionality and boundary conditions may depend on specific application needs and empirical validation.

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Hi Guys,
I'm new on this forum, currently studying Aerospace Engineering and am trying to produce the model of a radioisotope thermoelectric generator using numerical methods to solve the heat conduction equation as part of my research. The way it works is that I have a radioisotope source in the middle (let say a cube) generating a thermal power of x W/m3. Different configurations are possible but I want to start as follow. This source is surrounded by a cladding made of a specific alloy to shield it. On top and bottom of this cube there are thermopiles which on one end receive heat from the cladded source and on the other end radiate heat to space. Now, on the sides of this assembly there is a thermal insulator with non zero heat conductivity. My question is the following: Do I need to model this in 2D or 3D to couple the heat losses in the insulator as well as the heat "given" to each distinct thermopile or can I just do simple 1D models in each direction ? In the latter option, should I find the power given by the source to the insulation and substract it to what is given to the thermopile or is this not necessary and I can isolate each case ?
Thanks a lot in advance for your help!
 
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Mmm! Radio thermal generators. Ahhhhhh! (Insert picture of Homer with his tongue hanging out.)

I would suggest starting with a simple 1-D equilibrium model. Then measure a real device and see if your code matches reality accurately enough for your purposes. If not then you may need a 2-D or a time dependent. And again compare to measurements. Hopefully you won't need a full 3-D time dependent.

It's really very hard to know in advance how accurate and detailed your model needs to be.
 
Thank you! If doing 1D, I guess I need to apply a 1D model in each direction otherwise the power outputted to the thermopiles will be largely overestimated (ignoring heat loss in the insulator and the surroundings). If so, how could I couple these 1D models to make sure the power equilibrium is respected ?
 
Thank you for all this guys, I think I'm going to start with a 2d model and then refine from there if needed. Last question: At the boundaries of different materials (different conductivities) do I need to set an energy balance to obtain the heat flux out of the hot material and then input that heat flux in the cold one or can I just applied this scheme:
k(T(i-1,j)-T(i,j))/dx+k(T(i+1,j)-T(i,j))/dx+k(T(i,j-1)-T(i,j))/dy+k(T(i,j+1)-T(i,j))/dy+(heat generation)dxdy=0 ? Basically I'm just not sure whether I'm actually allowed to vary these k according to the material containing the node or if it should stay the same
 

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