Heat Equation for Compressible Fluids: Valid or Not?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the validity of the heat equation for compressible fluids, specifically air, under the assumption of constant humidity. Participants explore the implications of using the heat equation in scenarios where heat transfer may involve conduction and convection.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the heat equation for compressible fluids, specifically asking if it holds true for air under constant humidity.
  • Another participant suggests that the heat equation may be valid in stagnant conditions but becomes more complex when the fluid is in motion.
  • A third participant challenges the assumption that heat transfer occurs solely by conduction, arguing that temperature changes in fluids typically lead to density changes and the formation of convection currents.
  • A later reply reiterates the concern about the assumption of conduction-only heat transfer, emphasizing that it is often incorrect in fluid dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the heat equation for compressible fluids, with no consensus reached on its validity in dynamic conditions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of assuming conduction as the sole mode of heat transfer in fluids, particularly in the presence of convection currents, which are not fully addressed in the initial model.

MattT1991
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Hi everyone,

I am wondering if the heat equation is valid for compressible fluids like air. This is assuming constant 100% humidity.

If it is not then how close is the appoximation.


The model assumes that heat moves through an array of air only by conduction. At the moment I use a psychrometric model to set the boundary Temperaturefor the array from heat flow in, then run the heat equation from that boundary through the array.

Any help asap would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Matt
 
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Assuming that by heat equation you mean [itex]q = -k \nabla T[/itex], then the answer is sometimes. If the gas is stagnant then yes. If it is moving then the equation is much more complicated.
 
MattT1991 said:
The model assumes that heat moves through an array of air only by conduction.

That is a big assumption to make for any fluid, and it's nearly always wrong, because temperature changes cause density changes which cause convection currents.
 
alephzero said:
that is a big assumption to make for any fluid, and it's nearly always wrong, because temperature changes cause density changes which cause convection currents.

qft...
 

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