Help Me Solve Missing Step in Characteristic Equation

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The discussion revolves around a user seeking clarification on a step in deriving the characteristic equation from the transfer functions G(s) and H(s). The user presents the equations and expresses confusion about how to transition from the equation 1 + (30k)/((s^2 + 6s + 20)(s + 8)) = 0 to (s^2 + 6s + 20)(s + 8) + 30k = 0. Other participants confirm that the missing step involves multiplying both sides of the equation by (s^2 + 6s + 20)(s + 8). The user acknowledges this clarification and reflects on needing a break from their studies. The conversation highlights common challenges in control theory and the importance of algebraic manipulation.
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I'm not sure why I can't see what step is occurring here, but I could use some help:

G(s) = \frac {30}/{(s^2 + 6s +20)}

H(s) = \frac {k} /{s+8}

Characterisic equation: 1+ G(s)H(s)

So,

1 + \frac ({30k} /{(s^2+6s+20)(s+8))} = 0

Then, the step I'm not sure about:

(s^2+6s+20)(s+8) + 30k = 0

How do I get to that step? For some reason I can't see the simple algebra that is used.
 
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Maxwell said:
I'm not sure why I can't see what step is occurring here, but I could use some help:

G(s) = \frac {30}{s^2 + 6s +20}

H(s) = \frac {k} {s+8}

Characterisic equation: 1+ G(s)H(s)

So,

1 + \frac{30k} {(s^2+6s+20)(s+8)} = 0

Then, the step I'm not sure about:

(s^2+6s+20)(s+8) + 30k = 0

How do I get to that step? For some reason I can't see the simple algebra that is used.
Is this what you meant to write?

It looks like they just multiplied both sides by (s^2+6s+20)(s+8)
 
Doing a little controls theory are we? :biggrin: Yep, just mutliply both sides by that.
 
Yup, control theory. I don't know why I couldn't see that step, I think it's time to take a break. :smile:

Thanks guys.
 
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