Help simplifying this summation

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a summation involving binomial coefficients and probabilities, specifically the expression \(\sum\limits_{j=0}^\infty \binom{j}{r} p^r (1-p)^{j-r} (1-q) q^j\), where \(p\) and \(q\) are probabilities between 0 and 1, and \(r\) is a positive integer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the summation using binomial identities and changing variables. There are inquiries about relevant identities and the relationship between \(p\) and \(q\). Some participants express uncertainty about convergence and the applicability of generating functions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches and questioning the assumptions made in the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of constants and generating functions, but no consensus has been reached on a solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that \(p\) and \(q\) are treated as unrelated variables in this context, which may influence the evaluation of the summation. There is also mention of potential convergence issues with the series.

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Homework Statement



\sum\limits_{j=0}^\infty \binom{j}{r} p^r (1-p)^{j-r} (1-q) q^j

where p and q are between 0 and 1, and r is a positive integer

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The Attempt at a Solution



since \binom{j}{r}=\binom{j}{j-r}

we can rewrite the summation as

(1-q)\sum\limits_{j=0}^\infty \binom{j}{j-r} p^r (1-p)^{j-r} q^j

then i used a change of variables k=j-r and the summation became(1-q)\sum\limits_{k=-r}^\infty \binom{k+r}{k} p^r (1-p)^{k} q^{k+r}

and now I am stuck. i was hoping i could get the stuff inside the summation sign to look like the pdf of a negative binomial distribution
 
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Do you have any identities that might be relevant to evaluating the summation?

Also, the notation where q = 1-p is fairly common. Does that apply here or are p and q just two unrelated variables?
 
hi robertdeniro! :smile:

since r is a constant, you can take all the r stuff outside the ∑ :wink:

(but I don't think it converges)
 
vela said:
Do you have any identities that might be relevant to evaluating the summation?

Also, the notation where q = 1-p is fairly common. Does that apply here or are p and q just two unrelated variables?

nope, here p and q are not related

EDIT: Guys, please see me attempt at the solution and let me know what you think
 
I don't see how that helps, but I might just be missing something.

Are you familiar with the generating functions for the binomial coefficients?
 
vela said:
I don't see how that helps, but I might just be missing something.

Are you familiar with the generating functions for the binomial coefficients?

yes but i don't see how that would help

EDIT: nevermind, thanks for that tip! i think i got it
 
What generating functions do you know? At least one I've seen applies directly to the problem.
 

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