Help understanding dynamic equilibrium

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The discussion clarifies that an object can move at a constant speed even when the net force is zero, as per Newton's first law. When a force, such as a push, is balanced by friction, the object remains in motion without acceleration. The key point is that motion does not require a continuous force; rather, a force is only needed to change the state of motion. If an object is already sliding and there is no friction, it continues to slide due to its inertia. This distinction between motion and the need for force is a fundamental concept in Newtonian physics.
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if the equilibrium rule states ƩF=0N, how can something move or be moving at a constant speed ? eg I push on a box with 50N and friction provides 50N back, resulting in ƩF=0N. So I am not providing more N than the box is resisting with. I thought something could only be moved if the moving force was greater than the resisting force ? otherwise wouldn't it be a stand still ?

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just had thought...I'd only need more force than the friction provided to get the box moving, but once moving and if at a constant speed then its motion is unchanged, thus the zero net force ?? And this then becomes the first law as now it is moving it will remain moving until an unbalanced force acts upon it ??
 
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Newton's first law. If the ƩF=0N, no change in motion occurs.
 
What if the box is sliding on the table by itself and there's no friction?
 
aftershock said:
What if the box is sliding on the table by itself and there's no friction?

If there's no friction, what's the net force acting?
 
gneill said:
If there's no friction, what's the net force acting?

That was directed at the OP, in hopes of him being able to figure out the answer to his question.
 
aftershock said:
That was directed at the OP, in hopes of him being able to figure out the answer to his question.

Ah. Sorry for pouncing then :blushing:
 
aftershock said:
What if the box is sliding on the table by itself and there's no friction?
hmmm I don't quite get what would make the box slide ? If ƩF=0 and there's no friction my guess would be there is no force...but then I don't get how the box would be sliding with no force on it
 
urbano said:
hmmm I don't quite get what would make the box slide ? If ƩF=0 and there's no friction my guess would be there is no force...but then I don't get how the box would be sliding with no force on it

What if it were already sliding?

Motion does not require a force. Only a change in motion requires a force.

This is an essential difference between Aristotelian physics and Newtonian physics :wink:
 
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