Help Understanding What a Logarithm IS

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of logarithms, particularly their definition and relationship to exponential functions. Participants are exploring how logarithms function as exponents and the implications of this relationship.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to define logarithms and clarify their relationship with exponential functions. Questions arise regarding the placement of variables when converting between logarithmic and exponential forms.

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Some participants have provided insights into the conversion process between logarithmic and exponential forms, while others express curiosity about the reasoning behind these transformations. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties of logarithms without a definitive consensus.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions provided in their textbooks and questioning the clarity of these explanations. The discussion reflects a need for deeper understanding of the underlying mathematical relationships.

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I need help defining a logarithm.

My book simply says: A logarithm is an exponent.

This stumped me because I can't see how that is. I don't know what question to ask, but I might not be apprehending the relationship between an expo. function and a log. function.
 
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Moonseed said:
I need help defining a logarithm.

My book simply says: A logarithm is an exponent.

This stumped me because I can't see how that is. I don't know what question to ask, but I might not be apprehending the relationship between an expo. function and a log. function.

Well the logarithm base b is defined as

y = logb(x)

if

x = by

Notice that in the second equation y is the exponent, and in the first equation it is the logarithm, thus since these two equations are identical and express the exact same mathematical relationship it follows that a logarithm is essentially an exponent.
 
Thanks, that helped a lot.

I'm curious about why 'x' ended up where it is when the logarithm was converted to an exponential function or vice versa.
 
When converting from an exponential to a log (We'll use x=by as an example), you bring the y down. This bumps the b down into the base (Making it x=by). Then you switch the x and the y (Finishing the conversion to y=logbx). Did that make sense?
 
In technical terms, the logarithm is the "inverse" of the exponential function. That is, you swap the "x" and "y" values: if y= f(x) then x= f-1(y). As Ateowa said, if y= logax then x= ay.
 

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