Help with buck and boost converter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the impact of switching frequency on voltage gain, output voltage ripple, and inductor current in buck and boost converters. Participants also explore how load resistance affects voltage gain, with a focus on power electronics concepts.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between switching frequency and voltage gain, output voltage ripple, and inductor current.
  • One participant notes that higher switching frequencies can make it easier to filter ripple and allow for smaller inductors, but questions whether inductor current is more influenced by load than frequency.
  • Another participant suggests that increasing load resistance may lead to a small drop in output voltage, but emphasizes that this is dependent on the data sheet specifications.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of data sheets for switching converters, with one participant sharing experiences of discrepancies between specifications and actual performance.
  • There is a suggestion to focus on a specific converter topology to facilitate more targeted questions, with links to relevant resources provided.
  • Some participants reference a video explanation that they find confusing, questioning its usefulness for the original poster.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effects of switching frequency and load resistance on voltage gain and other parameters. Multiple viewpoints and uncertainties remain regarding the impact of these factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of data sheet specifications and the potential for discrepancies in converter performance. There is also mention of the need for careful design to mitigate RF noise at higher frequencies.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in power electronics, particularly those exploring the design and functionality of buck and boost converters, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all,

I'm new to power electronics, and somehow I still could not get the impact of switching frequency on voltage gain, output voltage ripple and inductor current.

Additionally, how is the voltage gain affected when increasing load resistance?

Thank you!
 
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I've mostly seen switching converters used as power supplies. While they technically have gain, they are usually specified by voltage output.

As the frequency goes up, it is easier to filter the ripple, though RF noise can couple without careful design. The inductors get smaller as well. I think the current through the inductor is more a function of load than frequency though I could be wrong. Check the data sheet.

Ideally the converter provides a constant voltage. There will of course be some small drop with usage which should go down with less load (i.e. increasing load resistance.) Again, in the data sheet.

The primary change in gain will come with the input voltage since the output voltage is constant. A changing input voltage will affect all the values slightly. Again, it's in the data sheet.

One warning, not all switchers are created equal. I've designed with some high frequency switchers where the data sheets specified impossible to achieve components like large value capacitors on less than 3mm square pads. On the surface higher frequency seems better, but there are limits. I think the sellers often design a chip for a particular application then sell leftovers to all comers. So there are lots of switchers out there that seem to work until you dig into the details. (I'm sure they worked for someone.)
 
usuki said:
Hi all,

I'm new to power electronics, and somehow I still could not get the impact of switching frequency on voltage gain, output voltage ripple and inductor current.

Additionally, how is the voltage gain affected when increasing load resistance?

Thank you!
If there is a considerably big difference in voltage beyond operating condition, that can not be handled by capacitors and regulators, you need to tweak transformer by means of switches. Here is a wonderful explanation and demo by Patnaik UC, very helpful.
 
Ronie Bayron said:
If there is a considerably big difference in voltage beyond operating condition, that can not be handled by capacitors and regulators, you need to tweak transformer by means of switches. Here is a wonderful explanation and demo by Patnaik UC, very helpful.

That is a very confusing video, IMO. And I'm not sure that it will be helpful to the OP...
 
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berkeman said:
That is a very confusing video, IMO. And I'm not sure that it will be helpful to the OP...
Probably. May be this is the appropriate: http://ecee.colorado.edu/copec/book/slides/Ch6slides.pdf
 
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