Help with Comparing k1 < k2 in Homework Problem

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The discussion revolves around comparing two expressions, A and B, which involve constants k1 and k2, where k1 < k2, and a variable n. Participants are trying to determine the relationship between A and B based on varying values of n.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how the values of n and the constants k1 and k2 affect the comparison between A and B. Questions arise regarding the nature of n and its impact on the relationship between the two expressions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest that the relationship between A and B may change depending on the value of n, while others propose examining the limits as n approaches infinity. There is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of fixed information regarding the value of n, leading to different interpretations of the problem. Participants have noted that the constants k1 and k2 are fixed for the problem, but the variability of n complicates the comparison.

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Homework Statement



k is a constant where k1 < k2

Is the relation between the two <. > or = to:

A = nk1 + k2n

B = nk2 + k1n

The Attempt at a Solution



I did this problem said that A > B, and I got it wrong. I am having a hard time telling if nki or kin is greater.
 
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Do you mean *n* is a constant? I don't see a k. Also, you have given us insufficient information to solve the problem because depending on k1 and k2 relative to n the answer will change. For example, n=10, k1=1, k2=2 and n=2, k1=10, k2=11.
 
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If n=1 then A>B. If n=2, k1=1 and k2=2 then A>B. If n=2, k1=3 and k2=4, then A<B. Do you know something about n you aren't telling us? What makes you think there is a definite relation between the two?
 
Sorry about that, n can be any number, does not have to be fixed like the k's. So, for example nk1 < nk2.
 
Gear2d said:
Sorry about that, n can be any number, does not have to be fixed like the k's. So, for example nk1 < nk2.

That doesn't help. You've already been given examples where A<B and B>A.
 
I think that k's are fixed value for a give problem, and that as n-> infinite that one of those will be >, <, or =. I think that is what gear2d is asking.
 
Ad2d said:
I think that k's are fixed value for a give problem, and that as n-> infinite that one of those will be >, <, or =. I think that is what gear2d is asking.

You might be right. If that's the real question, I wish Gear2d would clarify.
 
Thanks Ad2d you said what I wanted to say. So how would one approach this problem?
 
Figure out which term is dominant. Take n^k1 and k2^n. The logs are k1*log(n) and n*log(k2). Which is larger as n gets large? I.e. what is lim n->infinity (k1*log(n))/(n*log(k2))? Is it zero or infinity? Think l'Hopital.
 
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Thank you, that makes sense. Don't know why I did not see that. Thanks again.
 

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