Help with integrating the kinematic equations

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The discussion revolves around integrating kinematic equations, specifically how to derive the equation X = Xo + Vo(t - to) + 1/2(a)(t - to)^2. The user is struggling with the integration of (t - to)dt from to to t and seeks clarification on the process. After some back-and-forth, it is suggested to expand and simplify the resulting expression from the integration to resolve confusion. Additionally, users share tips on using LaTeX for typing math symbols more effectively. Overall, the thread emphasizes understanding the integration process and improving mathematical notation skills.
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Hello,

Just wondering if someone can help me make sense of something. I realize it's probably a simple problem, but my math skills aren't the best and I can't see through it.

I'm trying to end up with this kinematic equation:

X= Xo + Vo(t-to) + 1/2(a)(t-to)^2

And to do this the book tells me to insert this equation:
V=Vo + a(t-to)

Into this one:

X=Xo + ∫ vdt (integrated from to -> t)


And then solve this:

X=Xo + Vo∫ dt (from to->t) + a ∫ (t - to)dt (from to -> t)


I am stuck on the second integration.

How do I integrate (t-to)dt from to --> t ??

I realize that there are a few methods on how to get these equations, it seems like everybook I look at does it in a different way, but I want to understand this method.

(also, as you can probably tell, I'm new here and I'm not sure the best method of writing math symbols on a computer, can anyone sugest how to do it?)

thanks
 
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Markel said:
I am stuck on the second integration.

How do I integrate (t-to)dt from to --> t ??
How would you solve this?: ∫x dx
 
Doc Al said:
How would you solve this?: ∫x dx

This would be 1/2[ X^2 - Xo^2]

And I know that's what I need to get for the kinematic equation but I don't see how.

If I have:

a∫(t-to)dt = a[ ∫ t dt -∫ to dt] <--- here I assume to is a constant

So integrating from to-->t give me:

a[ (t^2- to^2)/2 - to(t-to) ]

And this seems to lead to no where. arg.



Thanks for your quick reply
 
Markel said:
So integrating from to-->t give me:

a[ (t^2- to^2)/2 - to(t-to) ]
Expand that out and simplify. (Hint: Factor the resulting expression.)
 
ah, ok. Makes sense now. I was just making a mistake with the algebra and getting confused.

Thanks so much your speedy help, and your patience with me.
This is a really great website.

But does anyone have any ideas on how to type math symbols a little less akwardly than I'm doing?
 
Markel said:
This is a really great website.
Indeed! :)

Markel said:
But does anyone have any ideas on how to type math symbols a little less akwardly than I'm doing?
You can use the LaTeX typesetting available on these forums. Check out this post: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997 for more details
 
Cool, I'll check that out for sure.

thanks!
 

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