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The discussion revolves around solving a moment and force question using torque calculations. Participants emphasize the importance of summing torques about the contact point and using the formula T = r x F, with specific attention to the direction of the force. The conversation highlights the need to convert units from mm to m and correctly identify the force's direction as perpendicular to the spanner. A participant arrives at a force value of approximately 905 N after clarifying the relevance of dimensions in the problem. The final solution underscores the simplification provided by the assumption that the force acts perpendicular to the spanner.
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Hey guys I was hoping you would be able to solve this question for me with a worked solution :)

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And also this question, thanks a lot :)

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You just need to sum the torques about the point where it makes contact.

T = r x F

F points in the opposite direction of the y-axis so F = -Fj.

To get r just write down how you get from the point to the force.

Example: If you move along the x-axis 30 mm positively and you reach the force r= 30i mm
 
rock.freak667 said:
You just need to sum the torques about the point where it makes contact.

T = r x F

F points in the opposite direction of the y-axis so F = -Fj.

To get r just write down how you get from the point to the force.

Example: If you move along the x-axis 30 mm positively and you reach the force r= 30i mm

Ok so I r=250i + 75j + 300k

And F is unkown. Because the moment is around the x axis, I got something like this (75*z)-(300*y)=280Nm

But wouldn't know where to go from there.
 
shaka091 said:
Ok so I r=250i + 75j + 300k

And F is unkown. Because the moment is around the x axis, I got something like this (75*z)-(300*y)=280Nm

But wouldn't know where to go from there.

The unit of r is mm, convert that to m.

F is perpendicular to the spanner. If the spanner is vertical (parallel to z) then the force is parallel to y. It is pointing in the -j direction so that F= -Fj

and r x F = 280i
 
Ok so, r=0.25i + 0.075j + 0.30k

because the force points in the -j direction I got, (0.075*0)-(0.30*-Fj) = 280Nm

which then got F=933.33 ?
 
Yes that should be correct.

Draw the free body diagram for the second problem and use the same set of equilibrium conditions:

∑Fx = ∑Fy = ∑Fz = ∑M = 0
 
Thanks for your help, lol turns out I should have just used this formula M=F*D

with distance being (300^2+250^2)^0.5 * F = 280
 
shaka091 said:
Thanks for your help, lol turns out I should have just used this formula M=F*D

with distance being (300^2+250^2)^0.5 * F = 280

Not quite.
The 250 mm dimension is not relevant. This dim could be made larger or smaller without changing the force (F) required.
The problem states "Assume that Force (F) acts perpendicular to the spanner". This greatly simplifies the problem.

Final answer should be about 905 N.
 
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