High voltage high amperage supply

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of building a Tesla coil system designed to generate high amperage and low voltage, alongside a separate coil that produces high voltage and low amperage. Participants explore the potential interactions between these two systems and the challenges associated with such a setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes building a Tesla coil that produces high amperage (300-500 amps) and low voltage, and questions the effects of connecting it to another coil that generates high voltage and low amperage.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the practicality of sustaining an arc between the two coils and highlights potential issues with electrical emissions and environmental control.
  • A different participant suggests using solid-state Tesla coils to achieve longer-lasting arcs and questions whether this setup could effectively combine high amperage and high voltage.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of power supplies, referencing the challenges of combining different voltage and current sources, and the importance of isolation in the circuit.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about working on high voltage power supplies for fusion experiments, emphasizing the complexity and financial backing required for such projects.
  • Another participant humorously speculates about the destructive potential of connecting a DC welder to a high voltage Tesla coil.
  • A more practical suggestion is made to wire multiple Tesla coils in parallel to achieve desired voltage and current levels, though this is met with a humorous caution about safety.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and safety of the proposed ideas, with no consensus reached on the practicality of combining high voltage and high amperage systems or the methods to achieve this.

Contextual Notes

Participants note various limitations, including the need for proper isolation, environmental control, and the challenges of sustaining arcs without damaging equipment. There is also uncertainty regarding the actual power requirements for the proposed systems.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring high voltage and high amperage electrical systems, Tesla coil enthusiasts, and those involved in experimental physics or engineering projects.

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Hello there i have an idea i want to try to build and i want to see what you think. I want to build a tesla coil that instead of making high voltage low amperage switch the coil sizes around so i have something that makes high amperage and low voltage say about 300-500 amps.

Then i want to take another tesla coil that creates high voltage and low amperage. What would happen if i make it so that the high voltage here jumps across through the air to the second coil that has the high amperage low voltage is this like putting batteries in series or parallel this isn't really either one. Would it do something different and combine the voltages and amperage's?
 
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Even if it arc across, it only last nano seconds, what good does that do? Also when arcing like this, surface get burnt, making thunderous sound. When we test circuits at 10KV+ with high current capability, it was loud. Also you will never pass UL or CE emission test, you are going to freeze up all the computers in the surrounding. Also even if you can make it work, the power is limited by the power of the high voltage low current coil.You will find it very very hard to control the environment with your idea, humidity, ozone emission and all the above.
 
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I would like to do solid state tesla coils for this so it doesn't last just nanoseconds. The only thing arcing across will be the high voltage low amperage though it will be arcing over to the high amperage supply. Will this combine them to make a high amperage high voltage power supply?
 
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I would like to do solid state tesla coils for this so it doesn't last just nanoseconds. The only thing arcing across will be the high voltage low amperage though it will be arcing over to the high amperage supply. Will this combine them to make a high amperage high voltage power supply?

I don't think so, I don't think you can sustain an arc for that long and without destroying things. Also if you take a D cell of 1.5V of say 5A capability and put in series with a 9V small battery or only 0.5A capability, you don't get a 10.5V 5A capability power source. The current limit is limited by the 9V battery. You get a 10.5V 0.5A battery!

Not to mention you have to have some serious isolation power supply to power the circuit that is going to be jumped up. Tell me what you want first, I'll see whether there is any other way to get what you want.
 
Yeah but can you really say this is in series or in parallel all your doing is jumping the voltage across to the amperage. the grounds and powers aren't connected to be in parallel and the powerside isn't touching the ground on the otherside to be in series. i don't know though its just a thought I'm going to build sometime and see what happens. I need to build a very powerful electromagnet. I would like to use between 300-500 amps and about 50,000 volts for a power supply for this. and I am trying to build my own power supply within my money capabilities.
 
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Yeah but can you really say this is in series or in parallel all your doing is jumping the voltage across to the amperage. the grounds and powers aren't connected to be in parallel and the powerside isn't touching the ground on the otherside to be in series. i don't know though its just a thought I'm going to build sometime and see what happens. I need to build a very powerful electromagnet. I would like to use between 300-500 amps and about 50,000 volts for a power supply for this. and I am trying to build my own power supply within my money capabilities.

300A and 50KV?! You are talking about Mega Watt supply? This belong to company like Aidin Energy division I worked for back in late 70s that design the high voltage supply for the fusion experiment for Lawrance Livermore Lab. We needed to have special power line coming straight from PG&E! We had over 100 people and one division worth to work on this power supply alone! I think that was for a super magnet that suspend something up...I don't even know enough about the detail as we only get the contract to design the power supply and I was only a small engineer at the time to design the control system.

I hope you have very very strong financial backing!
 
actually i don't. i don't know if i need a power supply that big even. I'm just wanting to go big or go home. I have an invention that i want to build that's going to take very powerful electromagnets for it to work. I've been thinking about seeing if i can get funding to build my idea but i don't know where to begin. but if this idea worked you wouldn't need that deep of pockets to build it. i do appreciate the input you have given though.
 
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I have a 250 amp DC welder. I am imagining connecting it to a 5 million volt tesla coil and DESTROYING both of them.

The rectifier diodes in the welder will go poof, all the insulation will arc over, and the initial pulse of 250 amps through the tesla coil will incinerate it too.Might make an interesting episode of Mythbusters, however . . .
 
Here is a more practical (from an engineering standpoint, if not from a financial one) idea :wire 500,000 Tesla coils in parallel, you will have the high voltage, and if one Tesla coil generates .001 amps, then you would have 500 amps if they were paralleled.

And please post a notice when you get ready to try this, I want to be as far away as possible.; )
 
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Cold!:smile:
 

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