High voltage power transmission and joule's law

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High voltage power transmission over long distances is primarily conducted using High Voltage Direct Current (HVDC) due to its reduced power losses compared to Alternating Current (AC). Joule's law indicates that power dissipation is proportional to the square of the current (I^2 * R), meaning that increasing voltage decreases current and minimizes heat loss. The confusion arises from misapplying Ohm's law, where the voltage referenced should be the differential power voltage, not the voltage drop across the transmission lines. This discussion clarifies the advantages of HVDC in large-scale electrical power transmission.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Joule's Law and its implications on power dissipation
  • Familiarity with Ohm's Law and its application in electrical circuits
  • Knowledge of High Voltage Direct Current (HVDC) technology
  • Basic principles of Alternating Current (AC) and its use in transformers
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  • Research the operational principles and advantages of High Voltage Direct Current (HVDC) systems
  • Study the role of transformers in AC power transmission and voltage regulation
  • Explore the efficiency comparisons between AC and DC transmission systems
  • Learn about the conversion processes between AC and DC, including rectification and inversion
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Electrical engineers, power system designers, and anyone involved in optimizing power transmission efficiency will benefit from this discussion.

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Hi,

Power transmission over long distances from power plants to local power grids is often done over DC with relatively high voltages/tensions. The argument for this is that since, by Joule's law, power dissipation due to heat by a resistive element is given by I^2 * R, lowering the current as a result of upping the voltage results in less power loss. But what is really puzzling me is that, by Ohm's law, I^2 * R is equal to (V^2)/R (since I = V/R), in which case upping the voltage will result in *increased* loss of power through heat generation.

I must be missing something, but I feel this isn't as clear as most people make it out to be with repeated quotes of I^2 * R without considering other equivalent forms..

Thanks a lot!
 
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markem said:
Hi,

Power transmission over long distances from power plants to local power grids is often done over DC with relatively high voltages/tensions. The argument for this is that since, by Joule's law, power dissipation due to heat by a resistive element is given by I^2 * R, lowering the current as a result of upping the voltage results in less power loss. But what is really puzzling me is that, by Ohm's law, I^2 * R is equal to (V^2)/R (since I = V/R), in which case upping the voltage will result in *increased* loss of power through heat generation.

I must be missing something, but I feel this isn't as clear as most people make it out to be with repeated quotes of I^2 * R without considering other equivalent forms..

Thanks a lot!

Power transmission lines use AC, not DC. Transformers need AC in order to work, and transformers are used to raise and lower the voltages for coupling to the HV power transmission lines.

The error in your equation is that the V you are listing is for the (small) voltage *drop* across the wires, not the (high) differential power voltage. Raising the differential power voltage results in lower current I, which also results in lower voltage drop along the wires.
 
berkeman said:
The error in your equation is that the V you are listing is for the (small) voltage *drop* across the wires, not the (high) differential power voltage. Raising the differential power voltage results in lower current I, which also results in lower voltage drop along the wires.

This answers the question, thanks!

However, about the DC part, often AC is rectified to High Voltage Direct Current (HVDC) for long-distance power transmission especially, then run through an inverter and then stepped down through a transformer for local grids. Apparently DC has lower power losses compared to AC for the purposes of large-scale electrical power transmission anyways. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current

At any rate you've answered my question regardless of the AC/DC issue. Thanks!
 

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