Homework Problem about the Work-Energy Theorem

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving the work-energy theorem to find the coefficient of kinetic friction for a puck on a shuffleboard. The initial confusion stems from the lack of mass information for the puck, complicating the use of various equations. Participants clarify that the mass cancels out in the calculations, allowing the coefficient of kinetic friction to be determined without it. The final formula derived is μ = (Vf² - Vi²) / (2dg), leading to a calculated value of μk = 0.0122. The contributors confirm the correctness of this solution, emphasizing the importance of understanding the relationships between the variables involved.
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[SOLVED] Homework Problem about the Work-Energy Theorem

Please help! This is my first year of taking physics and I am really confused...

A puck on a shuffleboard decreases in speed from 1.0 m/s to .20 m/s while traveling 4.0 m. What is the coeffecient of kinetic friction between the puck and the board?



I think that the equations we have to use to solve this would be...


w= \frac{1}{2}mV_{1}^{2}-\frac{1}{2}mV_{o}^{2}

w=Fd

F_{f}=\muF_{N}

w = \frac{1}{2}kd^{2}

k= \frac{1}{2}mV^{2}


First : I was thinking about using the equation w= \frac{1}{2}mV_{1}^{2}-\frac{1}{2}mV_{o}^{2} to solve for work, then substitute the work value in for w=Fd then somehow put it in the equation F_{f}=\muF_{N} . Then I got extremely confused...and I realized that I don't have the mass of the puck to put into the first equation.

Second try: So, I decided to use w = \frac{1}{2}kd^{2} but in order to find out the k (spring constant) value, I need to use the equation k= \frac{1}{2}mV^{2}...which again, I don't have the mass for.

Third try...I was going to use the equation F=kd to figure out F and then substitute it in for w in w=Fd and then solve for m in w= \frac{1}{2}mV_{1}^{2}-\frac{1}{2}mV_{o}^{2}
. But I don't have the k again!

And now, I'm out of ideas...please help me...thank you! :) I hope this question makes sense...and my tries...if not, let me know and I'll try to fix them up! Thanks again!
 
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Find the retardation of the body by using kinematic equatuon. Retarding force = m*a and normal reaction = mg. Plug it in the equation to get coefficient kinetic friction
 
Try this

Force of friction is given by:

F_{f} = \mu N [1]

Solving for \mu we have

\mu = \frac{F_{f}}{N} [2]

The normal force N is given by:

N = mg [3]

Substituting [3] into [2] we have:

\mu = \frac{F_{f}}{mg} [4]

The force of friction is also defined by:

F_{f} = ma [5]

where a is the deceleration and m is the mass of the puck. We also know given a distance and a constant acceleration (or deceleration in this case) that the acceleration is equal to the following (see: http://library.thinkquest.org/10796/ch3/ch3.htm ):

a = \frac{(V_{f}^{2} - V_{i}^{2})}{2d} [6]

Substituting [6] into [5] we have:

F_{f} = \frac{m(V_{f}^{2} - V_{i}^{2})}{2d} [7]

and finally substituting [7] into [4] we have:

\mu = \frac{(V_{f}^{2} - V_{i}^{2})}{2dg}
 
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photonsquared, I used your method to solve the problem...it made sense to me and this is the answer that I got \mu_{k}= .0122. Is there anyway you could tell me if this is correct? Thank you very much for your help! :smile:
 
That is the same value I calculate. The reason you don't need the mass of the puck is because the masses cancel out when you substitute eqn 7 into 4. Hope this helps.
 
Ok thank you very much photonsquared! :) Thanks rl.bhat for your response!
 
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