"Houston, we've had a problem...."

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The discussion revolves around the calmness of astronauts and pilots during emergencies, particularly in the context of a specific audio recording of an incident. Participants share their thoughts on training, psychological responses to crises, and personal anecdotes related to emergency situations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express fascination with the calmness of astronauts during emergencies, questioning how they maintain composure.
  • One participant attributes this calmness to training, suggesting that panic is counterproductive in crisis situations.
  • Another participant shares an anecdote contrasting the reactions of fighter pilots and regular people in life-threatening scenarios, emphasizing the importance of staying calm.
  • Some participants reflect on their own experiences with close calls, indicating a personal understanding of the stress involved but differing on whether the situation discussed qualifies as a close call.
  • A participant notes a specific moment in the audio where a change in Gene Krantz's voice indicates a realization about the cause of the incident.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that training plays a significant role in maintaining calm during emergencies, but there are differing opinions on the nature of the situation discussed and personal capabilities in high-stress scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on personal experiences and subjective interpretations of emergency situations, which may vary widely among individuals.

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You guys want to hear something really cool? I suggest listening to this at night, alone, with the lights turned off and using headphones...The accident happens about 8 minutes in. You can actually hear the explosion as a long "crackling" sound. Pretty creepy..

 
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Wow, thanks for the share. This is better than the movie.

This one's the audio from the ship, the "unpleasantness" occurs about 6 minutes in.
 
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These guys! How can they be so calm?
 
dlgoff said:
These guys! How can they be so calm?
That's their training.
 
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dlgoff said:
These guys! How can they be so calm?
Because they want to live and they know damned well (and as SteamKing said have been trained to know) that panic in an emergency situation will likely get you killed and in any event is absolutely no help at all.

I heard an interesting anecdote once about fighter pilots vs regular people. There's a type of emergency in a jet where the pilot knows there's a pretty good chance he's going to die in 8 seconds. Now, a normal person will spend 8 seconds saying "OH S***" over and over. The fighter pilot will say. "Eight seconds? Hell, I can pull it out of this"

And by staying calm, he just might.
 
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phinds said:
I heard an interesting anecdote once about fighter pilots vs regular people. There's a type of emergency in a jet where the pilot knows there's a pretty good chance he's going to die in 8 seconds. Now, a normal person will spend 8 seconds saying "OH S***" over and over. The fighter pilot will say. "Eight seconds? Hell, I can pull it out of this"
I've had close calls and can understand this. But this isn't a close call IMO. I'd wouldn't be a good pilot/astronaut.
 
dlgoff said:
I've had close calls and can understand this. But this isn't a close call IMO. I'd wouldn't be a good pilot/astronaut.
Most of us wouldn't, but they say training helps a lot.
 
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You can hear a change in Gene Krantz's voice around 50 minutes after the accident when they're starting to figure out it's the cryo-tanks.
 

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