How 3=2 is true?,help me to find out the mistakes

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m^2+m^2+m^2+...up to m term =m^2*m=m^3
Which is identity .So we use derivative for this identity.
Now, d/dm(m^2+m^2+m^2+...up to m term)=d/dm(m^3)
Or 2m+2m+2m+...up to m term=3m^2
Or 2m*m=3m^2
Or 2m^2=3m^2 but it is not possible.So there should be some mistakes.But I'm not getting it.
What I suspect are as follows:
In L.H.S we differentiated first,then add all terms.In R.S we added all then differentiated it.Is the mistake for maintaining different orders of operation?
I suspect another reason like while differentiating R.S, number of terms is considered as variable and multiplied with m^2 that leads to m^3,but as it is no. of terms if I assume it as constant then, m*d/dm(m^2)=m*2m=2m^2,which matches with L.S. Is this okay?or something else?
Thanks for your help.
 
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Here is my thought:
you have m-terms of m^2. That is, m*m^2. Taking derivative, d\dm (m*m^2)=m^2+m*2m=3m^2.
The problem with d/dm(m^2+m^2+m^2+...up to m term) is that m-term is also a function of m. So, technically, you need to differentiate the function (m-term)
 
Nero26 said:
m^2+m^2+m^2+...up to m term =m^2*m=m^3
Which is identity .So we use derivative for this identity.
Now, d/dm(m^2+m^2+m^2+...up to m term)=d/dm(m^3)
Or 2m+2m+2m+...up to m term=3m^2
Or 2m*m=3m^2
Or 2m^2=3m^2 but it is not possible.So there should be some mistakes.But I'm not getting it.
What I suspect are as follows:
In L.H.S we differentiated first,then add all terms.In R.S we added all then differentiated it.Is the mistake for maintaining different orders of operation?
I suspect another reason like while differentiating R.S, number of terms is considered as variable and multiplied with m^2 that leads to m^3,but as it is no. of terms if I assume it as constant then, m*d/dm(m^2)=m*2m=2m^2,which matches with L.S. Is this okay?or something else?
Thanks for your help.

You are not allowed to take a derivative of a sum like ##S(m) = \sum_{i=1}^m a_i## with respect to m. Think about it: if S(m) had a derivative, it would be
S&#039;(m) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\sum_{i=1}^{m+h} a_i - \sum_{i=1}^m a_i}{h}<br /> = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\sum_{i=m}^{m+h} a_i}{h}. If you take, for example, h = 0.001, what on Earth could you possibly mean by ##\sum_{i=m}^{m + 0.001} a_i?## It makes no sense.
 
Thanks to all for your help.
Ray Vickson said:
You are not allowed to take a derivative of a sum like ##S(m) = \sum_{i=1}^m a_i## with respect to m. Think about it: if S(m) had a derivative, it would be
S&#039;(m) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\sum_{i=1}^{m+h} a_i - \sum_{i=1}^m a_i}{h}<br /> = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\sum_{i=m}^{m+h} a_i}{h}. If you take, for example, h = 0.001, what on Earth could you possibly mean by ##\sum_{i=m}^{m + 0.001} a_i?## It makes no sense.
I couldn't understand this line,
##\sum_{i=1}^{m+h} a_i - \sum_{i=1}^m a_i=\sum_{i=m}^{m+h} a_i##
##\sum_{i=m}^{m+h} a_i=a_m+a_{m+1}+a_{m+2}+...+a_{m+h}## (assuming h is some integer)But terms upto ##a_m## should be canceled by ##\sum_{i=1}^{i=m}a_i## then what remains is ##a_{m+1}+a_{m+2}+...+a_{m+h}## which is ##\sum_{i=m+1}^{i=m+h}a_i## .Now in this case as h→0, after subtraction we'll get a term ##a_{m+h}## that fails to exist.
Another thing I couldn't understand is:
S(m)=\sum^{i=1}_{i=m}a_i,Whether a is constant or function of m?
However ,it seems I got your point that as number of terms can't be a fraction so we can't get derivative,like ##a_{m+0.001}## can't exist.Am I right?
 
Whew! Glad to see that's settled, because it is well known that 3 = 2 only for a large value of 2. :smile:
 
R: How 3=2 is true?,help me to find out the mistakes

Your left hand term is only defined for integer values of m, so d/dm makes no sense.
 
LCKurtz said:
Whew! Glad to see that's settled, because it is well known that 3 = 2 only for a large value of 2. :smile:
Yes, order has been restored. We can all sleep easy tonight! :wink:
 
LCKurtz said:
Whew! Glad to see that's settled, because it is well known that 3 = 2 only for a large value of 2. :smile:
Or a very small value of 3...
 
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