# How accurate is the offset yield point theory?

1. May 2, 2007

2. May 3, 2007

### Staff: Mentor

Since the 0.2%-offset method is widely used, it is considered accurate enough. Really this is used comparatively or as a proof that the material is suitable. In analyses, one would want as close actual behavior as possible. For example, one might use 0.001 (0.1%) offset.

The problem is that the true yield point could vary depending upon composition and processing, as well as testing method.

In design, most systems are designed to some fraction of yield so that there is adequate margin to permanent deformation and to allow for overload conditions which might produce high transient stresses.

3. May 3, 2007

### ECU0406

is there any way to actually test and find the yield point for any material?

I am using a wire called DSC (Dispersion Strenghtened Copper). it starts off as a metal powder 99% copper, .5% alumin oxide, and the other .5% iron and lead. it also has a oxygen free copper cladding after the metal powder is drawn to a wire.

4. May 3, 2007

### ECU0406

is the offset yield point just a straight line with the same slope but shift .002 strain over?

5. May 3, 2007

### FredGarvin

The issue that arises with the yield point is that in some materials, the yield point is not very well defined. The curve is so smooth that it doesn't present itself visually. The .2% offset is the accepted method.

Take a look here:
http://www.key-to-steel.com/default.aspx?ID=CheckArticle&NM=43

6. May 5, 2007

### Staff: Mentor

Yes. The slope is Young's modulus or Elastic modulus, and represents a linear relationship between stress and strain, i.e.

$$\sigma\,=\,E\,\epsilon$$

http://www.mse.cornell.edu/courses/engri111/modulus.htm [Broken]

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/permot3.html#c2

http://www.uoregon.edu/~struct/courseware/461/461_lectures/461_lecture24/461_lecture24.html [Broken]

http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Mechanical/Tensile.htm

This might be of use
http://www.shodor.org/~jingersoll/weave/tutorial/tutorial.html [Broken]

One can measure up to the proportional limit.

In addition to material composition, the yield strength and to some degree, the elastic modulus is a function of the metallurgical state (dislocation density), i.e. how much residual cold-work is present. Fully recrystallized (fully annealed) materials have minimal dislocation density and have lower strength.

Accuracy depends upon one's testing and measuring systems.

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