How Can a Watercraft's Path Be Modeled Without Trigonometry in a Flowing Stream?

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The discussion focuses on modeling the path of a watercraft crossing a stream without using trigonometric functions. Participants are tasked with deriving an ordinary differential equation for the watercraft's trajectory, specifically expressing dy/dx in terms of the watercraft's speed, stream speed, and coordinates. The watercraft is required to always point towards the pier, complicating the derivation of sine and cosine values. Diagrams are shared to clarify the relationship between the boat's position and the pier, with emphasis on establishing a coordinate system. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately defining the initial position and using geometric relationships to derive necessary equations.
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Homework Statement


A watercraft is crossing the stream to reach the pier. (See attached figure.)

Basically, I have to derive an ordinary differential equation of the path the watercraft travels, which I can then solve using MatLab, etc.
i.e. derive \frac{dy}{dx} in terms of V_{W}, V_{B}, x, y & W only (no trigonometric functions nor \beta).

Homework Equations


V_{W} = speed of stream
V_{B} = craft speed rel. static water
W = stream width

At a point (x,y), the ruling equations for the watercraft are:
\frac{dy}{dt} = V_{W} - V_{B}sin\beta

\frac{dx}{dt} = V_{B}cos\beta

The Attempt at a Solution


\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{dy}{dt} \times \frac{dt}{dx} = \frac{V_{W} - V_{B}sin\beta}{V_{B}cos\beta}

I think:
W = V_{B}cos\beta.t
x = cos\beta
y = sin\beta

I know that I have to find an equivalent for cos\beta & sin\beta but I am perplexed at this moment...

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you haven't told what the question was. Is the goal to arrive at the pier in the shortest time, or is the boat always pointing towards the pier?
If the boat is always pointing towards the pier, you can get sin(beta) and cos(beta) from x, and y. You have to chose an origin for the coordinates.
 
Sorry, yes the watercraft does always point towards the pier (throughout the journey).
Please see the attached figure for a more representative diagram.
What do you mean by choosing an origin?

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You have to chose where the point with x=0, y=0 is. From what you've written so far this isn't clear.
What you've done so far is ok, but you still need sin(beta) and cos(beta)
I think drawing a triangle with the following sides will help:
1. a line from the boat to the pier
2. a line going through the pier in the direction of the y-axis
3. and a line going through the boat in the direction of the x-axis
 
Do you mean like this? (See attached figure.)
Wouldn't the initial position be (0,0)?

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Hendrick said:
Do you mean like this? (See attached figure.)

just draw the boat somewhere in the middle of the stream at position (x,y)

Wouldn't the initial position be (0,0)?

It may be a bit easier to use the pier as (0,0). of course you only have to make the substitution u = y + w to get from one to the other.
 
How about this? (See attached figure)

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I think this diagram is more accurate than my previous one. (See attached figure)
 

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Hendrick said:
I think this diagram is more accurate than my previous one. (See attached figure)

finding cos(theta) and sin(theta) as a function of x and y should be easy from this rightanled triangle, with all the sides known.
 
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Hi,

was the hypotenuse correct?
Because if I did it via Pythagoras, it yields an equation which I do not think is equal.
\sqrt{(W-x)^{2}+y^{2}}
 
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Hendrick said:
Hi,

was the hypotenuse correct?
Because if I did it via Pythagoras, it yields an equation which I do not think is equal.
\sqrt{(W-x)^{2}+y^{2}}

Yes. What do you mean with an equation that is not equal?
 
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