How can I explain that this vector field is not conservative?

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The discussion revolves around explaining why a specific vector field is not conservative, with references to the conditions that define conservative fields in vector calculus.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the partial derivatives of the components of the vector field and question the implications of a closed curve in relation to work done in the field.

Discussion Status

There are attempts to articulate reasoning regarding the non-conservativeness of the vector field, with some participants suggesting that the work done in different directions may yield different results. Guidance is offered to enhance the clarity and completeness of the explanation.

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Participants are considering the implications of the vector field's behavior in relation to physical concepts, such as work done by forces in a fluid context, while also grappling with the definitions and conditions for conservativeness.

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I have to explain why this vector field is not conservative.

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Maybe it is: if ##\frac{\partial P}{\partial y} = \frac{\partial Q}{\partial x}## then F(x, y) = p(x, y)i + Q(x, y)j is a conservative field. I tried to figure out what P and Q is, but that

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I tried to figure out what P and Q is, but that was unsuccessfu. By book says that when I can draw a closed, continuous curve that always goes with where the vector field goes, that field is not conservative. But, I don't think it's enough.
 

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Suppose those arrows represent force of a water current. Do you think you would do the same amount of work swimming in a circle clockwise about the origin as swimming counterclockwise? Zero in both cases?
 
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I think the amount would be same, but will have negative value. But is that an enough explanation?
 
Surely you can word it more completely and carefully than that.
 

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